National Insurance Contributions Bill Debate

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Department: HM Treasury

National Insurance Contributions Bill

Gavin Williamson Excerpts
Thursday 13th January 2011

(13 years, 10 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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David Gauke Portrait Mr Gauke
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We come back to the central point that we are acting on a regional basis rather than trying to break down the figures for wards, constituencies or boroughs because of the nature of the labour market and people travelling to work. I concede that several hon. Members will not accept that, but it is the right approach given the nature of the labour market.

Gavin Williamson Portrait Gavin Williamson (South Staffordshire) (Con)
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Seventy per cent. of my constituents travel out of the constituency to work in neighbouring boroughs—in Wolverhampton, Dudley and Stourbridge. It is more typical for the benefits to come to those boroughs than to South Staffordshire, but people throughout the region will benefit.

David Gauke Portrait Mr Gauke
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My hon. Friend is right, and that is why we are acting on a regional basis.

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Stephen Timms Portrait Stephen Timms
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My right hon. Friend is absolutely right. I also agree with the hon. Member for High Peak (Andrew Bingham) about the importance of high-speed broadband for bringing about this kind of change. Of course, at the moment we do not know which Department in Government is responsible for broadband—we were attempting to clarify that earlier.

In his speech on 4 November, the Prime Minister went on to spell out how his vision could be achieved. He said that experience

“teaches government some simple things. Go with the grain of what is already there. Don’t interfere so much that you smother. But do help out wherever you can. Help to create the right framework, so it’s easier for new companies to start up, for venture capital firms to invest, for innovations to flourish, for businesses to grow.”

That is what the Prime Minister has said he wants to happen in the east end tech city initiative.

Gavin Williamson Portrait Gavin Williamson
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Does the right hon. Gentleman feel a sense of responsibility, as a former Minister, for the 11,000 pages of tax code which, every single day and every single year, stifles new businesses in setting up? Does he accept a responsibility for that stifling of innovation and industry?

Stephen Timms Portrait Stephen Timms
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I take a good deal of satisfaction from the progress that we saw with the development of high-tech business spin-outs from universities under the aegis of the previous Government. That was one of their very significant achievements.

Gavin Williamson Portrait Gavin Williamson
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Do you not accept that the 11,000 pages of tax code, which doubled under the last Labour Government, is stifling British industry, and that that is partly your responsibility and your party’s responsibility?

Stephen Timms Portrait Stephen Timms
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I do not think that it is the Deputy Speaker’s responsibility.