Debates between Fleur Anderson and Bob Seely during the 2019-2024 Parliament

War in Ukraine: Illicit Finance

Debate between Fleur Anderson and Bob Seely
Thursday 17th November 2022

(2 years, 1 month ago)

Westminster Hall
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Bob Seely Portrait Bob Seely
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Indeed. If it is effective, I look forward to working with my hon. Friend, and potentially other Members, to see how we can bring in such a law in the UK, so that we move from freezing money to taking money and using it for a more moral purpose.

Fleur Anderson Portrait Fleur Anderson (Putney) (Lab)
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The hon. Member is making a powerful speech. I am pleased to see this report and the recommendations in it. I have been talking to Ukrainian MPs since the visit that he and I made to Kyiv. One of the biggest issues they have raised is about not just having sanctions but having a sanctions regime that ratchets up internationally. The sanctions partnership is absolutely essential.

Just now in the House, the Prime Minister was congratulating the work done already on sanctions, but we cannot stop there. We need to move on. The ramping up of sanctions and the seizing—not just freezing—of assets are absolutely being called for by Ukrainian politicians and people.

To put into context the sums the hon. Gentleman has been referring to, right now there is a $38 billion budget gap for the running of Ukraine and billions also need to be paid back in reparations. This solution is much needed and would restore the reputation of London as a financial centre, not a money laundering centre.

Bob Seely Portrait Bob Seely
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That was a brief question!

Covid-19: Forecasting and Modelling

Debate between Fleur Anderson and Bob Seely
Tuesday 18th January 2022

(2 years, 11 months ago)

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Fleur Anderson Portrait Fleur Anderson
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No. The PACAC report makes it clear that no one in Government has taken responsibility for communicating the data. The report states:

“Ministerial accountability for ensuring decisions are underpinned by data has not been clear. Ministers have passed responsibility between the Cabinet Office and Department of Health and Social Care,”.

That is why, as a member of the shadow Cabinet, I am responding to this debate. There are questions about the use and communication of the data.

I want to come to why we needed to rely on modelling and forecasting. Significant mistakes made throughout the last 10 years of Conservative government are the problem. There could have been much better information, and we could have been much better informed, if there had been better pandemic and emergency preparedness.

Bob Seely Portrait Bob Seely
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Will the hon. Member give way?

Greg Smith Portrait Greg Smith
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Will the hon. Member give way?