Debates between Desmond Swayne and Sajid Javid during the 2017-2019 Parliament

Mon 11th Mar 2019
Mon 4th Mar 2019
Knife Crime
Commons Chamber
(Urgent Question)
Wed 20th Feb 2019
Mon 18th Feb 2019
Wed 27th Jun 2018
Offensive Weapons Bill
Commons Chamber

2nd reading: House of Commons & Money resolution: House of Commons
Mon 30th Apr 2018
Windrush
Commons Chamber
(Urgent Question)

Serious Violence

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Sajid Javid
Wednesday 15th May 2019

(5 years, 6 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Sajid Javid Portrait The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Sajid Javid)
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I beg to move,

That this House has considered the matter of serious violence.

Serious violence is a national emergency that we are tackling head on. It is all too common to wake up to the heartbreaking story of slaughter on our streets. Like many parents, I fear for my children. I lie awake worrying when they go out, waiting to hear the key turn in the door, desperate to know that they are safe and back home. Tragically, for some, that moment of relief never comes. They never hear that welcome jangling of keys. Their children never come home. Many are simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. We are seeing an epidemic of senseless violence to which anyone can fall victim.

Since becoming Home Secretary, I have done everything in my power to help end the bloodshed. It has been my top priority, and we have responded to the crisis with urgent investment and additional powers, but, while lives are still being lost, it is clear that more must be done.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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Has my right hon. Friend watched any of Channel 5’s “Police Code Zero”? If he were to do so, he would share the frustration of so many of our constituents who write to us complaining about the leniency of sentences even for violent attacks on the police, notwithstanding the powers we have given to the courts to deal with that. Why will they not use them?

Sajid Javid Portrait Sajid Javid
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I have not yet had the opportunity to watch the programme to which my right hon. Friend referred, but I absolutely understand the issue he raised. It is important that we do everything we can to support our brave police officers. I and the Policing Minister have made a number of announcements in the past 12 months to do just that. We continue to work with police officers and their leaders across the country, including talking to frontline officers about what more we can do.

Shamima Begum and Other Cases

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Sajid Javid
Monday 11th March 2019

(5 years, 8 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Sajid Javid Portrait Sajid Javid
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My right hon. Friend raises a number of points. First, there is no British consular presence in Syria, so it is incredibly difficult for the British Government to intervene directly or to provide help for any British citizen there, whether a child or an adult. That is why the Foreign and Commonwealth Office has been making it very clear since 2011 that no British citizen should enter that war zone. She also seems to question the dangers that might be posed by female terrorists. One public case that I can refer to went through our courts in June 2018. Safaa Boular, aged 18, was convicted of planning to travel to Syria and to engage in terrorist acts. Soon after, her mother, her sister and her female friend also pleaded guilty to terrorism charges. They were going to set up a female terror cell, and had they succeeded, there would have been deaths in this country. No one should make a judgment on the threat of a terrorist based on their gender.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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So how lethal are female terrorists?

Sajid Javid Portrait Sajid Javid
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My right hon. Friend asks a good question. It has been well documented that female terrorist fighters who have gone to join Daesh have engaged in murder, recruitment and radicalisation, including of British citizens through online means. They have assisted in rape and helped to keep sex slaves, and they have also prepared suicide vests and carried out suicide attacks themselves.

Knife Crime

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Sajid Javid
Monday 4th March 2019

(5 years, 8 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Sajid Javid Portrait Sajid Javid
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This is a hugely important priority issue across the Government: it was discussed very recently, just in the past few weeks, in the Cabinet, and just a couple of weeks ago we had a debate in this House on serious violence, both to set out the Government’s plans but also to listen to hon. Members across the House on new initiatives that can be taken forward. The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right to talk about this being an urgent priority, and it is important that we all work together to see what more we can do.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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Are sentences served long enough?

Sajid Javid Portrait Sajid Javid
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My right hon. Friend will know that, as recently as 2015, changes were made to sentencing for serious violence crimes, including with bladed weapons. While it is right that the courts make decisions on sentencing based on the evidence and the facts in each case, we have seen a rise in custodial sentences. That is important, too, to make sure the right message and right deterrent are set out for these horrible crimes.

Deprivation of Citizenship Status

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Sajid Javid
Wednesday 20th February 2019

(5 years, 9 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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The Home Secretary’s power to deprive is open to challenge and, in most cases, will not exist at all. I urge him once again to arm himself with powers of Executive detention so that people can be sufficiently quarantined before they are allowed back.

Sajid Javid Portrait Sajid Javid
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In cases where terrorists or suspected terrorists are returning to the UK, a number of powers are available, including, for example, temporary exclusion orders, which have been used and can place a number of restrictions on someone, including the port of entry and reporting requirements, as well as other restrictions. We would always look first at what existing powers we can use, and if we feel that they are not sufficient, we would always look at what more might need to be brought to the House.

UK Nationals returning from Syria

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Sajid Javid
Monday 18th February 2019

(5 years, 9 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Sajid Javid Portrait Sajid Javid
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First, it is worth pointing out again that the Foreign Office’s advice when it comes to Syria, for many years now, has been that it is very dangerous. No British citizen should be travelling to Syria. If a British citizen has ignored that advice, they will know that there is no consular support there and that we have no diplomatic relations with Syria. If the individual concerned is a foreign fighter who went to join a terrorist organisation to kill, rape and cause enormous damage, there is no way that this Government will risk the lives of British personnel—British soldiers, Foreign Office officials or others—to go and rescue such a person. No way.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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When we cannot prevent their return, what about internment until they have been sufficiently quarantined?

Sajid Javid Portrait Sajid Javid
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My right hon. Friend might be reassured to know that when we cannot prevent someone’s return, we will in all cases seek to question them, investigate them and, where appropriate, prosecute them. Even if they are mono-national, if they are British citizens, we can strip them of their passport, have temporary exclusion orders and manage their return.

Police Grant Report

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Sajid Javid
Tuesday 5th February 2019

(5 years, 9 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Sajid Javid Portrait Sajid Javid
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The hon. Gentleman makes an important point. Because of the change in demand caused by the rising demand of certain crimes and by the complexity of certain crimes, it is important to make sure that the Home Office, the National Police Chiefs Council and others are continually looking at this. I am not convinced that a royal commission is the answer, because it may lead to decisions being delayed or not being made, but he makes an important general point about making sure we are on top of what is needed by considering the changes and the complexity of crime.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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My right hon. Friend has rightly drawn attention to the challenges facing the police. Is it fair that, in facing those challenges, so much of their time is taken up by dealing with mental health emergencies that, frankly, are properly the concern of another Department of State?

Sajid Javid Portrait Sajid Javid
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My right hon. Friend makes an important point. It is not fair if police time is taken up by issues that should be dealt with by, in this case, health professionals. This has been recognised by the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care, who has committed to using some of the extra resources the Government are now putting into the NHS to help to relieve the police and to work with them more closely.

Oral Answers to Questions

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Sajid Javid
Monday 21st January 2019

(5 years, 10 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Sajid Javid Portrait Sajid Javid
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Security is an absolute priority for the Home Office, which is why it should come as no surprise to the House that all capabilities on which the UK would wish to co-operate with the EU are covered in the political declaration. If the hon. Lady wishes to continue that kind of co-operation, the best thing to do is to support the deal.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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What estimate has my right hon. Friend made of the intervention by Sir Richard Dearlove and General Guthrie?

Sajid Javid Portrait Sajid Javid
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I read the intervention carefully a week ago. Although I have huge respect for those two individuals and listen to them on many issues, I think that they are completely wrong in their assessment.

Migrant Crossings

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Sajid Javid
Monday 7th January 2019

(5 years, 10 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Sajid Javid Portrait Sajid Javid
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Law enforcement work is an important part of this operation. Since April 2018, UK law enforcement authorities have disrupted 46 organised criminal gangs involved in people smuggling. In November 2018, two men were jailed for eight years each; in September 2018, seven members of an OCG were jailed with sentences totalling 48 years; and last February, two men were jailed for over nine years.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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The Home Secretary was previously cautious about increasing the number of patrols because perversely it might have led to an increase in the number of attempts. Why has he changed his mind?

Sajid Javid Portrait Sajid Javid
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That is a very good question. It is important to keep this under constant review. Border Force has a limited number of vessels and a great deal of work to do, not just in the UK but as part of international operations. I asked for advice on redeployment, and once I had received it and was comfortable that it could meet both its international obligations and prioritise the UK border, I made a decision, and that is what was implemented.

Future Immigration

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Sajid Javid
Wednesday 19th December 2018

(5 years, 11 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Sajid Javid Portrait Sajid Javid
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We are committed to the 1951 convention, and I think that that commitment is shared across the House. As for the specific issue of work, it is one that we have been considering.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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What are the implications of the UN agreement on migration that we have signed in Marrakesh?

Offensive Weapons Bill

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Sajid Javid
2nd reading: House of Commons & Money resolution: House of Commons
Wednesday 27th June 2018

(6 years, 4 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Sajid Javid Portrait The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Sajid Javid)
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I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.

For the past two years, we have seen an unacceptable increase in recorded knife and gun crime. We have also seen a rise in acid attacks. Sadly, there was a vivid example just this week, with the fatal stabbing of Jordan Douherty, a young man of only 15 who had a great future ahead of him, but whose life was tragically cut short. The Bill will strengthen powers available to the police to deal with acid attacks and knife crime. Its measures will make it more difficult for young people to use acid as a weapon and to purchase knives online.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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Craftsmen such as carpenters rely on mail order for the provision of their specialist tools because that can no longer be maintained locally. Will the Home Secretary ensure that this excellent Bill does not intrude on the provision of lawful trade?

Sajid Javid Portrait Sajid Javid
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I am glad that my right hon. Friend, like me, thinks that the Bill is excellent. I can give him that assurance. As I talk a bit more about the Bill, it will become clear that the right types of reasonable defence will absolutely be in place. For example, knife sales to businesses and for other legitimate use will remain unaffected.

There have sadly been 77 homicides in London alone this year, but violent crime affects all parts of our country, not just our big cities. Violent crime destroys lives and devastates communities, and it has to stop.

Cannabis-based Medicines

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Sajid Javid
Tuesday 19th June 2018

(6 years, 5 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Sajid Javid Portrait Sajid Javid
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Yes, I think that there is a need to make the process clearer. I have been quite open that I do not think that the current process is a friendly one at all. The decision made in the case of Billy Caldwell was unprecedented; no Government in the past had recognised the medicinal benefits of cannabis by making such a decision and issuing a licence. We need to make the process—even the interim process, through the expert panel—much smoother and more straightforward. Once the panel is set up, which will happen by next week, we will set out exactly how the process will work for the hon. Lady’s constituents and others.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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Clinical leadership may have its place, but for years the crying need has been for political leadership, so may I thank my right hon. Friends the Secretary of State and the Policing Minister for providing it?

Sajid Javid Portrait Sajid Javid
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The Minister and I both thank my right hon. Friend.

Windrush

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Sajid Javid
Monday 30th April 2018

(6 years, 6 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne
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While I know that the Home Secretary favours the word, “compliance”, some of us believe that hostility to lawbreaking is a proper response.

Sajid Javid Portrait Sajid Javid
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I think we both agree that we must have a compliant environment.

Integrated Communities

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Sajid Javid
Wednesday 14th March 2018

(6 years, 8 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Sajid Javid Portrait Sajid Javid
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I assure the hon. Lady that we share the same goals. I know that she cares deeply about this, as we have spoken about these kinds of issues before. As she knows, Bradford is one of our pilot areas, and we have already started work there. It does not have to wait; this has already started. Bradford will have access to new funding for that work, and we want to work with people there to innovate. We want to listen to their ideas, because they are the people on the ground who are dealing with these issues day in, day out. The hon. Lady is right to refer to resources, which are of course important, but practice and how things are done are equally important, and we want to learn from that, too.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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On sharia councils, how do we protect people who are ignorant of their rights or subject to peer pressure in closed communities?

Sajid Javid Portrait Sajid Javid
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My right hon. Friend asks a good question. Once he gets a chance to read the Green Paper more closely, he will see that we have set out a programme of how we want to make sure that more people, including imams in mosques, make people aware of their rights. If we have to take direct action to prohibit something—I gave the example of a change in marriage law, and in that case we would need to make sure that women in particular were not being abused and taken advantage of—we will not hesitate to do so.

National Planning Policy Framework

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Sajid Javid
Monday 5th March 2018

(6 years, 8 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Sajid Javid Portrait Sajid Javid
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I cannot comment on that particular planning proposal—it is a live proposal—but the hon. Gentleman should reflect. If he truly supports more homes and developments in London, perhaps he should have a chat with the leader of his party and ask why they intimidate Labour leaders who want to increase the number of homes in their areas.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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Is the Secretary of State satisfied with the balance of power between developer and purchaser when new builds turn out to be seriously defective?

Oral Answers to Questions

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Sajid Javid
Monday 4th December 2017

(6 years, 11 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Sajid Javid Portrait Sajid Javid
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The hon. Gentleman is right to highlight that it is the responsibility of local authorities to help look after some of the most vulnerable people in society, and of course they should be careful about the quality of care they provide. That is why the CQC is independently involved, to look at the quality of care provided. We also have to make sure that the funding is there. As I have just said to his hon. Friend the Member for Sheffield South East (Mr Betts), extra resources have been provided, with £2 billion over the next three years, and we are also looking at the longer-term challenges.

Sajid Javid Portrait Sajid Javid
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The Government have rightly decided to look at a whole host of issues that have an impact on adult social care because of our ageing society. The appropriate approach is to take the time to get it right and have this Green Paper on adult social care.

Oral Answers to Questions

Debate between Desmond Swayne and Sajid Javid
Monday 17th July 2017

(7 years, 4 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Sajid Javid Portrait Sajid Javid
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First of all, I can tell the hon. Lady that over 220 temporary homes have been identified and inspected—that is all good-quality, available accommodation. She referred to unsuitable offers; she should certainly bring those details to me, and we will look at them and take this very seriously. There are 169 families who have received offers; 30 offers of temporary accommodation have been accepted, and nine families have already moved in. As she knows full well from talking to her constituents, many families do not feel ready to move into temporary accommodation, and we will absolutely respect their wishes.

Desmond Swayne Portrait Sir Desmond Swayne (New Forest West) (Con)
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Can any of the costs be met by the landlords’ insurance?

Sajid Javid Portrait Sajid Javid
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That may well be the case further down the line, but right now, the absolute priority is to do whatever is necessary to help the victims of the Grenfell Tower tragedy to get into those homes. All those costs will be met by Government wherever necessary.