Debates between David Jones and Lord Davies of Gower during the 2015-2017 Parliament

Draft Wales Bill

Debate between David Jones and Lord Davies of Gower
Wednesday 3rd February 2016

(8 years, 3 months ago)

General Committees
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Lord Davies of Gower Portrait Byron Davies
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I understand the Secretary of State’s point. We have to realise that the scandal, as he calls it, of the regeneration investment fund for Wales was examined by the Wales Audit Office, which produced a damning report, and by the Welsh Assembly’s Public Accounts Committee, whose damning report was published only last week. I hope that I can have some faith in his suggestion that if we give the Welsh Government this responsibility, they will grow into a more responsible—

David Jones Portrait Mr David Jones
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Does my hon. Friend agree that while it is all well and good to give the Assembly Government the responsibility for accounting for the money that they spend, tax-varying powers should not be conferred without the acquiescence of the Welsh people, as was the case with the Scottish people in 1997, and that therefore a referendum should be held on the issue?

Lord Davies of Gower Portrait Byron Davies
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It is well known that I think that the people of Wales should have had a referendum on that issue, and it is in the public domain that I have made that known to the Government.

Draft Wales Bill

Debate between David Jones and Lord Davies of Gower
Wednesday 3rd February 2016

(8 years, 3 months ago)

General Committees
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Lord Davies of Gower Portrait Byron Davies
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I understand the Secretary of State’s point. We have to realise that the scandal, as he calls it, of the regeneration investment fund for Wales was examined by the Wales Audit Office, which produced a damning report, and by the Welsh Assembly’s Public Accounts Committee, whose damning report was published only last week. I hope that I can have some faith in his suggestion that if we give the Welsh Government this responsibility, they will grow into a more responsible—

David Jones Portrait Mr David Jones
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Does my hon. Friend agree that while it is all well and good to give the Assembly Government the responsibility for accounting for the money that they spend, tax-varying powers should not be conferred without the acquiescence of the Welsh people, as was the case with the Scottish people in 1997, and that therefore a referendum should be held on the issue?

Lord Davies of Gower Portrait Byron Davies
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It is well known that I think that the people of Wales should have had a referendum on that issue, and it is in the public domain that I have made that known to the Government.