All 1 Clive Betts contributions to the Parliamentary Constituencies (Amendment) Bill 2016-17

Fri 18th Nov 2016

Parliamentary Constituencies (Amendment) Bill Debate

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Parliamentary Constituencies (Amendment) Bill

Clive Betts Excerpts
2nd reading: House of Commons
Friday 18th November 2016

(8 years ago)

Commons Chamber
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Pat Glass Portrait Pat Glass
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That unfortunate intervention was not helpful and exemplifies why people out there get so angry about people in here. This is about something bigger than ourselves.

Clive Betts Portrait Mr Clive Betts (Sheffield South East) (Lab)
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The anger goes beyond political parties. In my constituency, the nonsense of putting two wards from Sheffield South East in with wards from Rother Valley will create a constituency where we cannot drive from one side of it to the other without going through a second constituency. Indeed, one of the roads goes through a third council area and another region. As a result, 2,500 local people have already signed a petition against the proposal, because they see a constituency being created with no community of interest at all involved in that creation.

Pat Glass Portrait Pat Glass
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That is what we are hearing in the debate today—cities being split, communities being split, and that is not good for our democracy.

We in Britain pride ourselves on being the home of democracy. However, can we really talk about democracy when we have an antiquated system in which the larger House in Parliament is made up of people who are unelected? The unelected House is large and growing, and can be enlarged further at the political will of a retiring Prime Minister.

I have huge respect for the other place, where sensible decisions are often made and where many bring their lifelong experience to bear, but we cannot get away from the fact that it is unelected, significantly bigger than the elected House and subject to patronage. Is that what we mean by democracy in the 21st century? If we are the mother of Parliaments, I respectfully suggest that many of the children of this mother of Parliaments have outgrown us and are now showing how it is done.

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Mark Harper Portrait Mr Harper
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My hon. Friend illustrates the point that changes in the size of electorates have to be reflected in boundary changes. I was thinking of how to put this into context—

Clive Betts Portrait Mr Betts
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