Defence Spending (Wales) Debate

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Department: Ministry of Defence

Defence Spending (Wales)

Chris Ruane Excerpts
Wednesday 8th December 2010

(14 years ago)

Westminster Hall
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Siân C. James Portrait Mrs James
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I thank my hon. Friend for that. What have we heard from the coalition? The Prime Minister and the Defence Secretary maintain that there is still a bright future for the area, and that a decision will be made in the spring. The Welsh Secretary insists that she is continuing to press the case for St Athan, but we have all witnessed the power that she wields in the Cabinet. There have been so many words, but so little action—there was the decision to close the Newport passport office, deferral of the electrification of the south Wales main line, and the fact that Wales was not included among the new superfast broadband pilot areas.

Chris Ruane Portrait Chris Ruane (Vale of Clwyd) (Lab)
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Will my hon. Friend include cancellation of the north Wales prison on that list?

James Gray Portrait Mr James Gray (in the Chair)
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Order. Before the hon. Lady answers, I remind hon. Members that we are debating defence spending in Wales. It is not in order to discuss other projects that may or may not have been cut.

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Siân C. James Portrait Mrs James
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We have heard such tales. I have been approached by families and relations, and I went to the bother of checking out every story. I found that such statements were just not true. There were opportunities for the families to do other things, but the troops had equipment of the highest standard. I can pass on letters that I wrote to Ministers and those I received in reply. I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention.

Siân C. James Portrait Mrs James
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Well, the hon. Member for Carmarthen West and South Pembrokeshire (Simon Hart) is entitled to his opinion, just as I am entitled to mine. It is fair that a community with a proud military history should continue its lasting legacy, and it is fair for Wales to get military investment to match its contribution to our armed forces. The Secretary of State for Wales repeatedly states:

“We have secured a fair settlement for Wales.”—[Official Report, 3 November 2010; Vol. 514, c. 904.]

and the Defence Secretary insists that the best decisions will be made for the defence of the UK. Neither has yet delivered on those promises, although that could change today.

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Simon Hart Portrait Simon Hart
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I could not disagree more: the point I made about Castlemartin is valid in this context. Of course I have been in touch with the Secretary of State for Defence and the Minister about the future of that depot and others.

Chris Ruane Portrait Chris Ruane
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Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Simon Hart Portrait Simon Hart
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No. It is simply not possible to have this conversation as if the UK economy did not exist. We have to operate within the context of the wider economic circumstances in which, for whatever reason, we have been placed. That is where we are. Of course the decisions have to be taken with local interests in mind, but, ultimately, as the Minister said earlier, surely this has to be about defence needs in that wider context.

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Simon Hart Portrait Simon Hart
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Like my hon. Friend the Member for Salisbury (John Glen), I am not, sadly, in possession of the diary of my hon. Friend the Member for Vale of Glamorgan. [Interruption.] I wish I had not bothered to do this. However, nobody can doubt my hon. Friend’s commitment to the future of St Athan. [Interruption.] I would love to continue, but if anybody wishes to intervene, they can do so.

Chris Ruane Portrait Chris Ruane
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rose—

Simon Hart Portrait Simon Hart
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I am sorry that it took such a long time to give way to the hon. Gentleman—it is nothing personal.

Chris Ruane Portrait Chris Ruane
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What could be more important to a Member than defending a £20 billion investment in their own constituency?

James Gray Portrait Mr James Gray (in the Chair)
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Order. Before the hon. Gentleman answers, let me say that it is a long tradition of the House that we do not discuss Members who are not present in the Chamber unless we have given them notice that we intend to do so. This particular discussion is not necessarily central to our debate on defence spending in Wales, and I suggest that the hon. Gentleman returns to the main topic under discussion.