Oral Answers to Questions Debate

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Department: Ministry of Justice

Oral Answers to Questions

Catherine West Excerpts
Tuesday 23rd April 2019

(5 years, 7 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Rory Stewart Portrait Rory Stewart
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We have fewer officers than in 2010. There was a reduction from 2010 to 2012, but we have now turned that around, with the 4,300 extra officers, meaning we can now roll out the key worker programme, which is central, as it means we have the ratios we need to have one prison officer allied with four prisoners to make sure we deliver the work on rehabilitation.

Catherine West Portrait Catherine West (Hornsey and Wood Green) (Lab)
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The number of officers is only one part of the equation. Will the Minister increase the almost poverty pay of those in the lowest-paid jobs in the Prison Service and the courts?

Rory Stewart Portrait Rory Stewart
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We have been looking at this very carefully, and the public sector pay review body is currently gathering evidence on the situation. We owe a huge debt of obligation to our prison officers and we have to think about their salaries. We also have to balance that with making sure our resources go into improving the physical fabric of these buildings and having the right security infrastructure and the right programming in place. Looking at the resources as a whole, we think we have got the balance right, but we will listen to the public sector pay review body.