2 Barry Gardiner debates involving the Department for Business and Trade

Wed 13th Sep 2023
Economic Crime and Corporate Transparency Bill
Commons Chamber

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Horizon: Compensation and Convictions

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Monday 8th January 2024

(11 months, 2 weeks ago)

Commons Chamber
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Kevin Hollinrake Portrait Kevin Hollinrake
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I thank my right hon. Friend for her question. I share her wish to pay tribute to the sub-postmasters who campaigned so long and effectively on the issue. I read with interest the piece she wrote the other weekend about what she thinks should be done, and I agree with much of what she said. As I said earlier, anybody who is responsible, either at a corporate level or individually, should be held to account, which may include payments to assist with compensation and looking at the contracts that have been awarded. It is right to let Sir Wyn Williams undertake his inquiry, report properly and assign blame, and we should take action, at a corporate or individual level, at that time, to make sure both of those bodies are accountable.

Barry Gardiner Portrait Barry Gardiner (Brent North) (Lab)
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The Minister said that this was about not just compensation but restoration. That is true, but is it not also about misfeasance in public office? Will the Minister confirm that the maximum penalty for a public servant who willingly and knowingly acts in manner that results in harm, injury or financial loss to an innocent party is life imprisonment?

Kevin Hollinrake Portrait Kevin Hollinrake
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Well, the hon. Gentleman raises an important point about accountability. We have given Sir Wyn Williams the chance to look at all these issues and determine accountability and individual responsibility. I have dealt with a number of different scandals over the years, from the Back Benches as well as in my ministerial role. They happen at a corporate level too often for us to simply carry on in the way we have done in the past, so I am happy to take away the hon. Gentleman’s points about the potential penalty for the offence he describes, which I will discuss with officials and others.

Economic Crime and Corporate Transparency Bill

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Barry Gardiner Portrait Barry Gardiner (Brent North) (Lab)
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In the interest of moving to the vote, I will not speak.

Nigel Evans Portrait Mr Deputy Speaker
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In which case we come to the Minister, with the leave of the House.