Baroness Wheeler
Main Page: Baroness Wheeler (Labour - Life peer)(2 years, 1 month ago)
Grand CommitteeMy Lords, I thank the Minister for setting out the policy intention behind these regulations; for reminding us of the very real problems that were experienced during the pandemic due to the lack of data in the field of social care; and for explaining how these regulations would operate in practice. I simply want to make a couple of general points then ask a couple of quick questions.
I am certainly in favour of better data collection in this area. In broad terms, I certainly support these regulations. It seems to me that, if we are to tackle the current crisis in social care, we need a far better picture and understanding of the sector at all levels—that is, what is happening locally, regionally and nationally. Unless we have that information in a more standardised form that people can use, it is very difficult indeed for those in the sector who need to plan and provide the higher-quality care that we all want to see. The availability of this data is absolutely crucial to both those who commission and deliver social care and those who are responsible for ensuring good outcomes for those individuals who use it.
For too long now, there has been too little information. It has been difficult to share it across the sector and it has not been standardised, which has not helped. These regulations are an opportunity to address these problems and move the dial forward, as well as improving transparency and accountability in a sector that has often felt quite opaque to many people. With this opportunity, I hope that a greater joined-upness—if I may use that term—in data collection and availability will be at the forefront of the minds of the people putting these regulations into practice. As the Minister acknowledged, the more we can have an “ask once” dataset, the better to achieve the objectives I have just set out.
I have two questions. It has always been important to us on these Benches that data collection is in keeping with the Data Protection Act 2018 and the UK GDPR. The regulations say that it will be, so that is good and proper and as it should be. But can the Minister give a specific confirmation that this will always remain the case and will not be something that a future Secretary of State might try to come back and change? If that were the case, we would not be able to continue our support of these regulations.
Finally, I was pleased to see that the fining of providers would be a last resort and proportionate, particularly to their size. Again, I query whether it would be possible for a future Secretary of State to change that without coming back to Parliament. I would worry if that were the case because, frankly, small social care providers do not have the reporting structures and the administrative support of the NHS. There needs to be some real understanding of their situation in the way that these regulations are taken forward.
My Lords, I thank the Minister for introducing the SI, which sets out the process of fines, including notice periods and the right of appeal, for adult social care providers that fail to provide any or accurate information to the Health Secretary without reasonable excuse. It is important for adult social care providers to be required to supply the Department of Health and Social Care with key data and information. The use and further development of the capacity tracker, which was the only tool available to get the vital data needed during the pandemic, is a welcome step forward.
It is indeed truly striking, as the noble Baroness, Lady Tyler, said, that prior to the pandemic there was no comprehensive national data from providers on workforce status, bed availability or the number of people in receipt of care. Regularised, standardised and accurate data is vital in order to get an up-to-date understanding of how the care system is functioning. The noble Baroness, Lady Tyler, made that point very forcefully. It is very worrying that since the infection control fund ended, data completion and submission rates from care homes have declined. How are care homes to be supported in the work involved, in light of their current desperate shortage of staffing and funds?
We recognise the need to put information submission from care homes on a statutory footing and acknowledge that the SI is largely uncontroversial. It flows from amendments to the Health and Social Care Act 2012 made by the Health and Care Act 2022, as has been stated, on more extensive and accurate data provision and transparency in the sector, which we all argued for and supported at the time. Has the Minister made any assessment of how much money will be paid in fines each year? Will smaller providers definitely be able to digest government guidelines and keep up with monthly data collection? Can the Minister be sure that no care homes will be forced to shut or scale back their services due to these regulations? The reassurances that providers that do not submit data will be helped and supported and that fines will be the last resort are also welcome, as the noble Baroness, Lady Tyler, said.
I am grateful to the noble Baronesses for their contributions this afternoon.
The noble Baroness, Lady Tyler, and I were on the Public Services Committee during Covid, and one thing we were very conscious about was data collection. That was highlighted on that committee, so I am very aware of the points that were raised in that respect.
On the purpose of data collection and support, as I am sure the noble Baroness appreciates, the availability of good quality and timely data from ICS providers is essential to improve the service for all users, support efficient commissioning and systems assurance and manage national, regional and local risks. The data is needed to continue to support Covid recovery, monitor vaccination levels, understand capacity and risk in the care system more generally, understand the impact of winter pressures, determine when and how to target support to providers and, ultimately, help facilitate the care of individuals across the care system long term.
The noble Baroness, Lady Tyler, asked about transparency. Our programme of work to improve data in adult social care includes updating the adult social care outcomes framework to ensure that it better captures the outcomes that matter most to people and reflects the Care Act 2014 and reform. It is used locally and nationally to set priorities for care and support, measure progress and strengthen transparency and accountability. We are developing an ISC data framework, which will start to set out what data gaps we have, our approach to addressing them, the purpose of those collections and the standards to which they are collected.
The noble Baroness, Lady Tyler, asked about guarantees for future Secretaries of State. I cannot stand here and speak for what a future Secretary of State will do but, for now, I can assure her that the data will be subject to the UK GDPR.
The noble Baroness, Lady Wheeler, asked about the burden on small businesses. We hope to see full compliance so that financial penalties are not required. Our priority is to support providers to share their data wherever possible. The data required will be proportionate and we do not anticipate it being onerous. Financial penalties will normally be a last resort, where a provider continues to be or is persistently in breach of its data obligations despite multiple offers of support from our delivery partners.
The noble Baroness also wanted some assurance on data collection. As I said, our aim is to work closely with stakeholders to identify and agree key data needs, as well as look at opportunities to streamline current data collections from ASC providers, so that data can be captured once and shared safely with all those who need it.
Another point raised by the noble Baroness, Lady Wheeler, was on fines. As I said, we hope to see full compliance so that financial penalties are not required. Our priority is to support providers to share their data wherever possible. The data required will be proportionate and we do not anticipate it being too onerous, as I said earlier.
I think that covers most of the points that were raised.
I also asked about the cost of the appeal process and the five-year review.
As I mentioned in my opening remarks, the appeal process is through the courts. If it would be helpful, I can guide the noble Baroness through the level of fines. They will be the same as a provider’s CQC registration fee, which is calculated based on the type and size of the provider. These are examples of fines: where the care home provider has fewer than four beds, the penalty will be £313; where the care home provider has 16 to 20 beds, the penalty will be £2,388; and where the care home provider has more than 90 beds, the penalty will be from £15,710. Here are further examples: where the domiciliary care provider has fewer than 20 users, the penalty will be up to £1,597; where the domiciliary care provider has 26 to 50 users, the penalty will be from £1,651 to £2,954; and, lastly, where the domiciliary care provider has 76 to 100 users, the penalty will be from £4,366 to £5,670.
As I mentioned in my opening remarks, details about the process of appeal are standard and set out in the relevant rules for the First-tier Tribunal, rather than in these regulations. The standard deadline for making an appeal to the First-tier Tribunal is 28 days after the decision—in this case, 28 days after the final notice.
In conclusion, we want to build a better picture of adult social care services across England so that, at the local, regional and national levels, people in the sector have the information they need to provide high-quality care and support to people who need it. These draft regulations will ensure that we continue to get vital information from all registered adult social care providers and that, where providers do not make a good-faith effort to provide the data or do not otherwise have a reasonable excuse for not doing so, they are held to account. I commend these draft regulations to the Committee.