Carbon Border Taxes Debate

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Department: HM Treasury
Wednesday 12th March 2025

(2 days, 14 hours ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Livermore Portrait Lord Livermore (Lab)
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I am very tempted to agree with my noble friend. I think that what he says is absolutely the case.

Baroness Neville-Rolfe Portrait Baroness Neville-Rolfe (Con)
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My Lords, UK energy prices are far too high, notably for industrial uses such as steel, cement and ceramics, and for manufacturing, which are vital to the UK economy. Does the Minister agree that the arrangements for a carbon tax here and any border mechanisms must always be considered against the need to reduce energy costs for users and, as has been foreshadowed, to keep prices down, especially for hard-pressed consumers?

Lord Livermore Portrait Lord Livermore (Lab)
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Yes—I agree with the noble Baroness that energy prices are too high. I just wonder what the previous Government did to tackle that over 14 years. This Government have invested in CCUS, for example, which the previous Government did not. I do not know whether the noble Baroness agrees with our investments in that; she opposes the revenue-raising measures that we have taken to raise the funds to invest in those measures. It is an interesting question, but I of course agree with her. That is why the tax is designed in exactly the way that it is.