Public and Private Sector Productivity Trends Debate
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(1 day, 21 hours ago)
Lords Chamber Lord Livermore (Lab)
    
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Lord Livermore (Lab) 
        
    
        
    
        On the noble Lord’s first point, I am very aware of some issues around the data, and I believe the ONS has been reviewing it along the lines he suggests. On the Employment Rights Bill, he will know that labour supply is also a fundamental component of driving productivity, and that a more motivated and more secure workforce is a more productive workforce. I hope he will take that into account.
 Baroness Kramer (LD)
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Baroness Kramer (LD) 
        
    
        
    
        My Lords, we hear this week that only 11% of UK SMEs say they use technology to a great extent to automate or streamline operations. Do the Government understand that the slow pace of adoption of new technology by SMEs—many of which have not even adopted first-generation technology—lies at the heart of our productivity problem, which is why it remains incomprehensible that the Government keep adding burdens on SMEs? I know the Minister cannot tell us what is in the Budget, but can he at least tell the House that he recognises the problem?
 Lord Livermore (Lab)
    
        
    
    
    
    
    
        
        
        
            Lord Livermore (Lab) 
        
    
        
    
        Yes, I absolutely recognise the problem and I agree with 90% of what the noble Baroness said. The only part I disagreed with was when she criticised the Government. I agree: digital adoption and AI adoption will be central to solving the productivity problem. SMEs are vital to that. It is why digital adoption was a key part of our small business strategy. I hope we can work together on this important issue.