Debates between Anneliese Dodds and James Cleverly during the 2017-2019 Parliament

Wed 11th Oct 2017
Finance Bill
Commons Chamber

Committee: 1st sitting: House of Commons

Finance Bill

Debate between Anneliese Dodds and James Cleverly
James Cleverly Portrait James Cleverly
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My hon. Friend is absolutely right. I will respond to her point in a few moments, but it is a very important one and we must not overlook it.

We have had a jobs boom over the past few years, in stark contrast to many other developed economies around the world and across Europe, which has struggled. In particular, in the UK, which is dominated by small and medium-sized enterprises and, indeed, microbusinesses, which often have only one or two principals and one or two employees, it is important that we continue to give confidence to those businesses, many of which do not have a large administrative back-office function. That is often the case, as it was in the business that I started. I was doing the client interaction and sales, and a colleague of mine was doing the journalism side of the business, but we were also the accountants and the HR department. To give confidence to small and microbusinesses that they can employ people, it is incredibly important that everything to do with employment is as simple and transparent as possible.

At the moment, the tax treatments around severance payments are very competitive. Depending on the combination of events, the payment can be taxed any one of a number of ways. Although I did not speak about this set of clauses on Second Reading, I did welcome the Bill, and I welcome this general move to simplify, to clarify and to give small businesses in particular—although of course this affects businesses of all kinds—the confidence to employ people, knowing that the HR and financial treatment around that employment will be as simple as possible.

The Opposition spokesman kept talking as though severance payments were not taxed at the moment, and of course they are. They are taxed—

Anneliese Dodds Portrait Anneliese Dodds
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indicated dissent.

James Cleverly Portrait James Cleverly
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Above the £30,000 threshold, there are tax treatments. Through the Bill, the Government are seeking to make the treatment of the figure above £30,000 most important and straightforward—[Interruption.] I absolutely welcome that.

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Anneliese Dodds Portrait Anneliese Dodds
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The threshold.

James Cleverly Portrait James Cleverly
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Yes, but at the moment it is £30,000, and that is what it says here—[Interruption.]