NHS Sustainability and Transformation Plans

Anna Soubry Excerpts
Wednesday 14th September 2016

(7 years, 7 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Diane Abbott Portrait Ms Abbott
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I need to make some progress.

The King’s Fund has said:

“There are some concerns that NHS leaders have focused their efforts on plans for reconfiguring a few hospital services, despite evidence that major acute reconfigurations rarely actually save money and sometimes fail to improve the quality of care.”

The BMA has said the same thing. The King’s Fund has also said:

“The cuts under the STPs are eye-watering”.

Diane Abbott Portrait Ms Abbott
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I am anxious to complete my remarks so that Conservative Members will all get a chance to intervene in the debate.

The Health Select Committee's recent report on the impact of the 2015 spending review stated:

“At present the Sustainability and Transformation Fund is being used largely to ‘sustain’ in the form of plugging provider deficits rather than in transforming the system at scale and pace. If the financial situation of trusts is not resolved or, worse, deteriorates further, it is likely that the overwhelming majority of the Fund will continue to be used to correct short-term problems rather than to support long-term solutions”.

Anna Soubry Portrait Anna Soubry
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Diane Abbott Portrait Ms Abbott
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Other aspects of the STPs that relate to cutting expenditure involve a combination of factors, including the use of new technology such as apps and Skype, patients taking more responsibility for their own health, “new pathways” for elderly care, increased reliance on volunteers and the downgrading of treatment by skills, responsibilities and pay bands. It seems to me that while some of these proposals might have some merit in themselves, it is delusional to imagine that they will deal with the financial black hole in the NHS. There is no evidence that among the patient population as a whole, increased use of apps, Skype and telemedicine can produce the efficiencies required while beds, units, departments and hospitals are being closed.

I remind Members, many of whom speak to their constituents in their advice surgeries on a weekly basis, that the truth about speaking to people face to face is that it is often towards the end of the conversation that people will come out with what really concerns them. My concern about the increased use of Skype is that many patients will not get the familiarity and comfortableness with their interlocutors to enable them to say at the end of the Skype session what it is that they are concerned about.

The STPs talk a great deal about increasing preventive medicine. That would indeed have the effect of lowering demand for acute NHS care, but it would also require a very substantial investment in public health programmes—and this Government have just cut public health funding. The elderly, the poor and patients for whom English is not their first language are the least likely to use these apps, telemedicine and Skype. It is inappropriate and unrealistic to assume that elderly patients who, I remind Members, are the biggest users of acute care and the fastest-growing demographic, will want to use Skype for any sensitive matter. “New pathways” for the elderly is sufficiently vague as an idea to raise alarm bells, given the projected rise in demand for geriatric services and continuing cuts in social care funding.

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Andrew Murrison Portrait Dr Murrison
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Will the hon. Lady give way?

Anna Soubry Portrait Anna Soubry
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Will the hon. Lady give way?

Simon Burns Portrait Sir Simon Burns
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Will the hon. Lady give way, and if not, why not?

Diane Abbott Portrait Ms Abbott
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Let me now draw my speech to a close. It is absolutely right that health and social care stakeholders should come together to plan for the future. It is absolutely wrong that social transformation plans should be hatched in secret and used as a cover for cuts and hospital closures—and it is increasingly clear that STPs may be a stalking horse for more privatisation. Conservative Members may not take this issue seriously—[Interruption]—and Conservative Members’ response may be to shout, but I stress to the House that the consequences of these STPs will be very material for all our constituents.

Anna Soubry Portrait Anna Soubry
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Will the hon. Lady give way?

Diane Abbott Portrait Ms Abbott
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They will also be very material for those who work in the NHS. I take this issue seriously. [Interruption.] That is why we have called the debate, and I wait with interest to hear what Ministers have to say.