Debates between Mike Amesbury and Gavin Newlands during the 2017-2019 Parliament

House of Lords Reform: Lord Speaker’s Committee

Debate between Mike Amesbury and Gavin Newlands
Wednesday 15th November 2017

(6 years, 6 months ago)

Westminster Hall
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Mike Amesbury Portrait Mike Amesbury (Weaver Vale) (Lab)
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Would it be progress, and a sign of a mature democracy that would engage people more in the democratic process, if we had a fully elected second Chamber and abolished the House of Lords?

Gavin Newlands Portrait Gavin Newlands
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I could not agree more. That is the point almost every contributor has made thus far, apart from the hon. Member for Ochil and South Perthshire. It is obviously a given that, in 2017, we should not appoint any unelected member to a legislative body.

To be honest, as somebody who has been campaigning for Scottish independence since I was nine years old, I never feel more strongly about independence than when I view the farce on the day of the Queen’s Speech. I have always viewed the Lords as a kind of pumped-up parliamentary panto, and seeing all that ermine and fancy dress, and the Lord Chancellor playing Widow Twanky, is embarrassing in the extreme in 2017. I believe that the Lord Speaker’s report was probably as much as we could have expected, given his position and his narrow remit, but it falls spectacularly short of what any developed western democracy should be aiming for.