Debates between Lord West of Spithead and Lord Kerr of Kinlochard during the 2017-2019 Parliament

Tue 15th Oct 2019

Queen’s Speech

Debate between Lord West of Spithead and Lord Kerr of Kinlochard
Tuesday 15th October 2019

(5 years, 2 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Kerr of Kinlochard Portrait Lord Kerr of Kinlochard
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I entirely agree with the noble Lord. I think that a second referendum, if or, more likely, when it comes, should be mandatory. It should not be advisory.

Lord West of Spithead Portrait Lord West of Spithead (Lab)
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Does the noble Lord agree that to have a robust foreign policy—I agree with everything he says on those issues—we need to have some hard power? Unfortunately, successive Governments have put us in a position where we are probably unable to put blood where our mouth is or to put in sufficient power as a permanent member of the Security Council. We need to have that if we are to fulfil our proper role.

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard Portrait Lord Kerr of Kinlochard
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I agree entirely with the noble Lord.