Debates between Lord Vallance of Balham and Lord Wallace of Saltaire during the 2024 Parliament

Tue 8th Oct 2024

Horizon Europe

Debate between Lord Vallance of Balham and Lord Wallace of Saltaire
Tuesday 8th October 2024

(1 month, 3 weeks ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Vallance of Balham Portrait Lord Vallance of Balham (Lab)
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There is absolutely no doubt that quite significant damage was done. That the participation rate dropped so dramatically, from 16% of all grants coming to the UK in 2015 to 6.5% in 2022, shows the scale of the damage. At the moment, it is not possible to work that out in terms of patents or publications, partly because those indicators are so lagging, but we will look at that and I fully expect to see some change.

Lord Wallace of Saltaire Portrait Lord Wallace of Saltaire (LD)
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My Lords, is the Minister confident that the UK’s association with Horizon and its successor programme can be dealt with as a one-off or does this have to be wrapped up in a broader reconsideration of our relations with the European Union?

Lord Vallance of Balham Portrait Lord Vallance of Balham (Lab)
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Now that we are back in Horizon Europe and FP10, we will be looking to engage in that fully and shape it. In answer to an earlier question, I hope that that will include areas from which we are currently excluded. That will all depend on the backdrop of our relationship with Europe; you will see that it is warmer now and therefore we have had encouraging noises. I am due to meet Manuel Heitor, who is chair of the expert group on Horizon and FP10, to discuss how we can fully engage.