Debates between Lord Timpson and Lord Carlile of Berriew during the 2024 Parliament

Drones: High-security Prisons

Debate between Lord Timpson and Lord Carlile of Berriew
Wednesday 15th January 2025

(2 weeks, 2 days ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Timpson Portrait Lord Timpson (Lab)
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Like the noble Lord, I visited some years ago, so I do not have an exact picture in my mind of the layout of the exercise yards. I can assure him that every male closed prison now has X-ray scanners. In 2003, there were over 1,000 drone sightings. They were up 770% between 2019 and 2023. We have a serious problem but if I know any more details, I will let him know.

Lord Carlile of Berriew Portrait Lord Carlile of Berriew (CB)
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My Lords, does the noble Lord agree that the focus for prisoners should be on not taking drugs when they come out of prison? Does he agree that there is still a gap in making sure that prisoners know what will be done to help them to stop taking drugs on their release and that, if there was greater co-operation in that regard, we might not have quite as big a problem with drones as we have today?

Lord Timpson Portrait Lord Timpson (Lab)
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The noble Lord is completely right. There are far too many people in prison who arrive addicted and stay addicted. They need an incentive and support not to take drugs. That is why I am a big fan of substance-free living wings and engaging with probation early so that, when people are released, we have a seamless link whereby probation picks up with all the drug workers on release.

Prisoners: Early Release Scheme

Debate between Lord Timpson and Lord Carlile of Berriew
Monday 21st October 2024

(3 months, 1 week ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Timpson Portrait Lord Timpson (Lab)
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We do not yet have all the exact figures but, when they are verified, we will publish them in the normal way. However, the noble Lord is correct that we have inherited a system that is very difficult, in which far too many people are recalled. For the second SDS40 stage, we are as ready as we can be. Victim contact data is very reassuring but, as in a lot of areas that we are dealing with in respect of full prisons, it is not as straightforward as I would like.

Lord Carlile of Berriew Portrait Lord Carlile of Berriew (CB)
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My Lords, given the number of prisoners who become dependent on drugs before, during or after leaving prison, what steps will the Government take to ensure that better treatment, and psychological treatment in particular, is available to them, whether they are released early or at the normal time?