All 2 Debates between Lord Teverson and Lord Coaker

Decommissioned Nuclear-Powered Submarines

Debate between Lord Teverson and Lord Coaker
Wednesday 23rd October 2024

(4 weeks, 1 day ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Coaker Portrait Lord Coaker (Lab)
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We will understand that more fully once we have finished the demonstrator project with HMS “Swiftsure”.

Lord Teverson Portrait Lord Teverson (LD)
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My Lords, the Minister says—it is not his fault—that the new nuclear submarines will not be delivered for another six years, yet the current length of patrols for the Astute class is getting longer. The crews have to cope with long periods of being away from their families and their homes. There is also stress around the recruitment of those crews. How do we square the circle over the next five or six years when, because of the maintenance of the current fleet, the length of patrols is likely to get even longer?

Lord Coaker Portrait Lord Coaker (Lab)
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Let me just say to the noble Lord that everything that happens is now my responsibility. If I gave the impression that it was not my responsibility, that certainly was not my intention. I will not evade responsibility for anything.

On the noble Lord’s question, I am not going to go into the operations of our submarine fleet in great detail on the Floor of this House, for obvious reasons. However, the noble Lord makes a point, as he has done here previously, about the welfare of submariners—indeed, the welfare of all our Armed Forces. That is something we take very seriously. We are looking to do all we can to support them and ensure that they are supported in the way they should be. In a few months’ time, or a year’s time, perhaps the noble Lord can ask the same question, and we will see whether we have made the progress we should have done; that will be my responsibility.

Combat Air Capability

Debate between Lord Teverson and Lord Coaker
Thursday 10th October 2024

(1 month, 1 week ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Coaker Portrait Lord Coaker (Lab)
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Well, I do not know about that, but the use of drones will of course become increasingly important. With respect to the noble Lord’s suggestion, I am sure that people have heard it and will consider it in due course.

Lord Teverson Portrait Lord Teverson (LD)
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My Lords, is the Minister confident that we can keep one Vanguard submarine at sea at all times, given the strain there is on crew and our loss of crew because of the increasingly long time each mission has to take because of maintenance of the rest of the fleet?

Lord Coaker Portrait Lord Coaker (Lab)
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This is a very important question and there should be no confusion here. The noble Lord is talking about the UK’s nuclear deterrent. That forms an important part of our deterrent. We are absolutely 100% certain that we will retain a constant at-sea nuclear deterrent presence. That needs to be heard from this Chamber and across the globe. There is no way that we will in any way allow our nuclear deterrent to be compromised. That needs to be heard loud and clear.