Scotland Bill

Debate between Lord Foulkes of Cumnock and Baroness Fookes

Thursday 26th January 2012 Lords Chamber

[The Deputy Chairman of Committees (Baroness Fookes)]

The Question is that Clause 2 stand part of the Bill.

[Lord Foulkes of Cumnock]

My Lords—

[The Deputy Chairman of Committees]

Perhaps I should explain to the noble Lord that we have to agree that Clause 2 stand part of the Bill before we reach Amendment 1.

Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill

Debate between Lord Foulkes of Cumnock and Baroness Fookes

Monday 13th December 2010 Lords Chamber

[Lord Foulkes of Cumnock]

Of course, the support of Ed Miliband—and I have a great respect for him—will help the AV campaign. However, I do not think that it will help it as much as the wide range of support for the first-past-the-post campaign in the Labour Party, which has a whole galaxy of supporters. That still does not argue the case about the differential in the turnout. The Liberal Democrat that I mentioned was arguing from his point of view the fact that it would be for Liberal Democrats to have the referendum on its own so that they could concentrate on the change that was necessary and get the enthusiasts and activists to turn out.

I urge noble Lords to support the deletion of this clause. It is the first in a group of amendments that would have a similar effect in different areas and in different ways. The amendment would eliminate the probability, or certainty, of confusion of the electorate in the campaign and at the polling booths. If we do that, we will have produced a far better Bill than we received from the other place.

[The Deputy Chairman of Committees (Baroness Fookes)]

I point out to noble Lords that if this amendment were agreed, I could not call Amendment 39A by reason of pre-emption.