I am afraid that, as I stand here, I cannot give the noble Lord an indication of that. I will go back to the department and will write to him with any information it may have.
My Lords, I take the Minister back again to the question asked by the noble Baroness, Lady Lister. This morning, the Legatum Institute made it very clear that the number of people in poverty will rise if the rates are not increased by the rate of inflation. Will the Minister acknowledge that that is simply the fact if the Government do not do that?
I appreciate and acknowledge that. I fully understand the point that the right reverend Prelate is making.