Debates between Lord Campbell of Pittenweem and Lord True during the 2017-2019 Parliament

Fri 6th Sep 2019
European Union (Withdrawal) (No. 6) Bill
Lords Chamber

Report stage (Hansard): House of Lords

European Union (Withdrawal) (No. 6) Bill

Debate between Lord Campbell of Pittenweem and Lord True
Lord True Portrait Lord True
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My Lords, I absolutely do. There is no purpose in this House if it is not to enable at some point the rights of the people to be sustained. Indeed, the one deliberate and absolute power of this House is that it can prevent the House of Commons extending itself indefinitely. We can require a general election after five years; we cannot in this case. That is an absolute power of this House under legislation. I am making a submission to and through this House to all the parties, and to people on both sides who support them, that this matter should be decided by a general election, not by House of Cards shenanigans on one side or the other—if you ask me, both sides are as bad as each other—as they try to do chess moves one against the other. I totally agree with what was said by the noble Lord, Lord Jones: it is doing nothing to advance the credibility of politics.

Lord Campbell of Pittenweem Portrait Lord Campbell of Pittenweem (LD)
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I am most grateful to the noble Lord for giving way, because I am examining his amendment, the last phrase of which is,

“following the first general election to take place in 2019”.

If no such general election takes place, what is the effect of his amendment?

Lord True Portrait Lord True
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The effect of the amendment is that the Act will not come into place until a general election has taken place. I have been advised by—

Lord Campbell of Pittenweem Portrait Lord Campbell of Pittenweem
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Forgive me if I did not make myself sufficiently clear. If there is no general election in 2019, how can the amendment have any statutory effect?