Debates between Julian Lewis and Daisy Cooper during the 2019-2024 Parliament

Wed 12th Feb 2020
Terrorist Offenders (Restriction of Early Release) Bill
Commons Chamber

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Terrorist Offenders (Restriction of Early Release) Bill

Debate between Julian Lewis and Daisy Cooper
2nd reading & 2nd reading: House of Commons
Wednesday 12th February 2020

(4 years, 10 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Daisy Cooper Portrait Daisy Cooper
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I thank the right hon. Gentleman for that point. Much of the evidence suggests that what helps the deradicalisation process is not only how people are treated when they are incarcerated, but the amount of time they have on licence in order to find a home, rebuild family connections and do all the activity outside prison. There is evidence to suggest that the time on licence can make more of a difference to reducing reoffending rates and deradicalising people.

Julian Lewis Portrait Dr Julian Lewis
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Can we think about specifics? The last two attacks were very different. As I said in an earlier intervention, the second of the two attacks was by someone who was clearly mentally deranged. The earlier attack was by someone who appeared to have taken all the deradicalisation on board and to be a model prisoner. We have to recognise that we are dealing with a kaleidoscope of personalities, not necessarily people who have been fooled by something and who can reasonably be brought out of that situation.