Debates between John Whittingdale and Jeremy Quin during the 2019-2024 Parliament

Mon 6th Mar 2023

Civil Service Impartiality

Debate between John Whittingdale and Jeremy Quin
Monday 6th March 2023

(1 year, 8 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Jeremy Quin Portrait Jeremy Quin
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The hon. Gentleman obviously knows faux outrage when he sees it; he has a long experience of seeing it, in the mirror. I am grateful to him for reminding me of the words of my predecessor as Minister for the Cabinet Office and, indeed, as the Member of Parliament for Horsham. I, too, have worked with Sue Gray. I have admired her advice and have had no reason to question her integrity. That does not mean, however, that this is the way we should conduct things in these circumstances. I am very disappointed in the actions of the Labour party. I am very disappointed in how this has come through, and there are real concerns about the impact that it may have on the perception of impartiality more broadly.

John Whittingdale Portrait Sir John Whittingdale (Maldon) (Con)
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Is my right hon. Friend aware that on my appointment as a Minister, I, like many Members, was advised by Sue Gray on the steps that I needed to take in order to avoid any perception of a potential conflict of interest? Does he therefore understand why her appointment has caused such anger right across the civil service, as it undermines that very principle of the perception of conflict?

Jeremy Quin Portrait Jeremy Quin
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I do. My right hon. Friend is right to draw on the fact that many senior civil servants are troubled by this. They know the vital importance of the bond of trust between Ministers and civil servants, and anything that might serve to undermine that is not healthy and is not good for the way we do business.