Debates between Lord Spellar and Dan Poulter during the 2010-2015 Parliament

Oral Answers to Questions

Debate between Lord Spellar and Dan Poulter
Tuesday 1st April 2014

(10 years, 7 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Pat Glass Portrait Pat Glass (North West Durham) (Lab)
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10. How many staff have been made redundant and subsequently re-employed by NHS organisations since May 2010.

Dan Poulter Portrait The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Health (Dr Daniel Poulter)
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Since May 2010 and up to December 2013, 4,050 staff across the whole NHS have been re-employed in the NHS following redundancy. This covers all staff grades, not just managers, and is a tiny proportion of the total NHS work force of currently around 1.2 million.

Lord Spellar Portrait Mr Spellar
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May I thank the Minister for that utterly complacent answer? Is it not outrageous that, while front-line health service staff are having their salaries frozen, the fat cats at the top are getting monstrous pay-outs and then being re-employed straight away elsewhere in the NHS?

Dan Poulter Portrait Dr Poulter
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The Opposition will have to do better than these prepared questions. We have been lumbered with their redundancy terms, which were negotiated when the right hon. Member for Leigh (Andy Burnham) was a Minister in the Department of Health.

On NHS pay, we believe in having enough front-line staff to care for patients. That is the lesson of Mid Staffs. What the previous Government would have done—and the Opposition would have us do—is give some staff in the NHS two pay rises, not just one. That is unacceptable. We need to have enough staff to ensure that we can look after patients. All staff in the NHS will receive a pay rise of at least 1%, but unfortunately, because of the terms that the previous Government set, some managers are still treated better than patients. We will change that.