Debates between Claire Coutinho and Caroline Nokes during the 2024 Parliament

Thu 5th Sep 2024

Great British Energy Bill

Debate between Claire Coutinho and Caroline Nokes
2nd reading
Thursday 5th September 2024

(3 months, 2 weeks ago)

Commons Chamber
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Caroline Nokes Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker (Caroline Nokes)
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I thank the hon. Member for that comment. He will know that that is not a point of order. Would the shadow Secretary of State please proceed?

Claire Coutinho Portrait Claire Coutinho
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This is really important, because we are talking about taxpayers’ money. Those were small-time projects with budgets in the tens of millions, but the Secretary of State is asking for a budget of billions of pounds with no plans. He mentioned a couple of companies in his speech, including EDF, which made a loss of €17 billion in 2022, and Ørsted, which made a loss of €2.7 billion in 2023, so I think it is right that we ask some of these questions.

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Claire Coutinho Portrait Claire Coutinho
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I will. This is a critical point, which I have made in recent weeks. The point about having longer to decarbonise is that it gives time to develop British supply chains. That is exactly what I was doing. The green industries growth accelerator and some of the other things that I have talked about gave us time to set up British companies. Those things cannot be done in five years. There is a need to get project finance, to hire workers and train them, and to get planning permission. There is a huge amount that needs to be done. The fact that the Secretary of State wants to rush the transition and make it happen at breakneck speed is risking British jobs and livelihoods, and making us dependent on Chinese supply chains.

The Secretary of State has promised many things with the Bill, but he simply cannot set out any detail about the things that he wants to deliver. It would be a blank cheque for £8 billion of taxpayers’ money, with no plan, no evidence, and no numbers for the bill savings or profits that he has been promising the British public. That is why we cannot support the Bill as it stands.

Caroline Nokes Portrait Madam Deputy Speaker (Caroline Nokes)
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I call Becky Gittins to make her maiden speech.