Debates between Baroness Scott of Bybrook and Lord Keen of Elie during the 2017-2019 Parliament

Mon 10th Sep 2018

Victims Strategy

Debate between Baroness Scott of Bybrook and Lord Keen of Elie
Monday 10th September 2018

(5 years, 7 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Keen of Elie Portrait Lord Keen of Elie
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I thank the right reverend Prelate for his observation. It is of course difficult in this situation, because if we simply proceed with the term “complainer”, people have certain perceptions about that, and that in itself appears to inhibit them from coming forward. They are perceived to be merely complainers rather than, as they are in reality, victims. Terminology is therefore important here, but it is also difficult. However, I entirely endorse the right reverend Prelate’s observation that those who are falsely accused of crime are also victims. Of that there can be no doubt whatever, and we should always remember that.

Baroness Scott of Bybrook Portrait Baroness Scott of Bybrook (Con)
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My Lords, I also welcome this strategy from the Government. I will ask the Minister about major incidents and their victims: places such as Grenfell, of which I have some knowledge, but also Manchester and even Salisbury. I hope that in the strategy the Government acknowledge the role of local government in supporting the victims but I also hope that they challenge local government and look to support it in its role as supporting victims of these major incidents.

Lord Keen of Elie Portrait Lord Keen of Elie
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I thank my noble friend for that. Indeed, the noble Lord, Lord Beecham, raised this very same point about the need to ensure that all agencies which may be involved in these matters should be properly engaged and consulted. I certainly acknowledge the role of local government in dealing with disasters such as Grenfell, the Manchester bombing or Salisbury. There have to be clear lines of engagement between central government and local government to ensure that that can be achieved, and I anticipate that that matter will be addressed in the course of the consultation process.