UN Biodiversity Conference: COP 15 Debate
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(1 year, 7 months ago)
Grand CommitteeMy Lords, I too thank the noble Lord, Lord Randall, for securing this debate. We would have had a Statement to discuss otherwise, so it is important that we are addressing this issue. I agree with the noble Lord that the Minister is genuinely committed and works hard on environmental matters. It is good to see him here.
The noble Lord, Lord Randall, clearly laid out all the pressures on our wildlife and his reasons for bringing this debate forward, so I will not go through the different goals in any detail. He and my noble friend Lord Howarth went through them. However, I agree that not enough work has been done on the importance of the Dasgupta review. My noble friend Lord Howarth also made the important point that COP 15, compared with COP 26, was very much passed over. What do we do about this? How do we, as parliamentarians, work with the media, for example, and within ourselves, to raise awareness of the challenges that biodiversity is facing and how important it is to tackle this alongside climate change, which is discussed so often?
I was really pleased that my noble friend Lord Howarth mentioned the disaster in the Tees. The Government must do more work on this. I hope that the Minister has some positive things to say on how we will move forward and ensure that such a disaster does not happen again.
Turning to the GBF, which is what is mainly being discussed following COP 15, the reaction to it was mixed. Two particular issues came up. First, there were concerns that the final text was forced through. According to a Guardian article, the Chinese President appeared to force it through moments after the Democratic Republic of the Congo’s Environment Minister said that her country would not support the final text. The DRC objected to it because the GBF did not create a new fund for biodiversity separate from the existing UN fund, the GEF. The Chinese President’s interventions were reported to have then prompted further objections from Uganda and Cameroon.
These were all dropped afterwards but it does show that there are serious tensions in a conference such as this. Carbon Brief also said that there were tensions between the developed and developing countries regarding developed countries wanting to increase ambitions while developing countries needed assurances about sufficient resources. The noble Lord, Lord Randall, talked about money and resources to deliver. The Minister has experience in this, so it would be very helpful to understand better those tensions and whether they are any kind of threat to delivering on decision-making as we go forward, and to understand how we manage those competing interests between developing and developed countries.
Secondly, concerns were raised about the impact of the GBF on indigenous people’s rights. Target 3, the 30 by 30 deal, states that 30% of terrestrial inland water, coastal and marine areas must be conserved and managed by 2030 through systems of protected areas and conservation measures that recognise indigenous and traditional territories where applicable. Some felt that this was simply not strong enough. Amnesty International, for example, said that it believed that this threatened the rights of indigenous peoples by failing properly to recognise their lands and territories as a separate category of conserved area. Amnesty International’s adviser on this said that it only partly acknowledged indigenous people’s outstanding contribution to conservation.
Certainly, when I was at COP 26, there was a very strong presence of indigenous peoples there. I was not at COP 15, but I would assume that the same was the case. I would be very interested to hear the Minister’s thoughts on this and on whether he believes that more needs to be done in this area. If so, how would we go about it? If not, how do we reassure indigenous peoples that we are taking their concerns seriously?
A final concern that I want to raise is that some people have talked about an apparent lack of accountability within the GBF. In particular, a senior associate at PricewaterhouseCoopers UK argued that the GBF lacked “quantifiable measures”. In other words, it is more difficult with the way that it is drafted at the moment to hold countries and Governments to account. Clearly, without that ability to hold countries to account, it is much more difficult to ensure that we deliver on these ambitions. Again, I would be interested to hear whether there is any further work to be done on how you hold countries to account and ensure that action is taken.
Despite having raised those concerns, I think it is very important to recognise the enormous amount of progress made at COP 15 and to praise the GBF for what it is attempting to do and what it wants to achieve. It is incredibly important that, despite the concerns that I have raised, we manage to reach that agreement.
The International Institute for Sustainable Development said that “significant efforts” were now required from all societies and Governments to achieve the framework’s goals and targets. That is true, but it is true only because there is such an ambition within it. It is really important to acknowledge that. I follow the Minister on Twitter and I am aware that he described the GBF as a “huge, historic moment”. He is absolutely right—it is just a matter of how we move forward with this.
The key question now from our perspective is: how do we ensure implementation? My noble friend mentioned what happened at Aichi. We need to ensure that we do not have another failed set of agreements. From a UK perspective, I know that, to try to do this, the Government have committed to publishing a plan setting out how they will implement the GBF. A Written Question was put down in the other place on biodiversity in December and, in response to that, the Minister for Natural Environment and Land Use, Trudy Harrison MP, said that the Government would publish the environmental improvement plan “in 2023”—this year. The Minister said that the plan would
“set out our ambitions and approach to nature recovery”
following COP 15.
The noble Baroness, Lady Walmsley, made some really important points about the loss of biodiversity in the UK and talked about many of the challenges and concerns that have been raised over and over in your Lordships’ House and the other place. She made an important point about how we have failed to properly protect and manage our existing protected sites. That does not send out a very good message for how we are going to take this forward. She particularly talked about SSSIs, which have pretty much failed in recent years. How does our ambition to deliver on COP 15 sit with the missed support and targets that we have had in this country in recent years? She said, very importantly, that we need to lead more strongly in this area. We need to make more progress than we have recently. I know that the Minister is very committed to this, so I would be interested to hear what plans the Government have to genuinely turn this around? We have been disappointed by the Government’s lack of ambition, including in their own environmental targets, which we have only recently seen published.
I want to end by asking the Minister this: when will we see the environmental improvement plan? Will it be truly ambitious? There is cross-party support—the Government have our strong support to deliver on these ambitions. Please, give us something to support strongly.