All 2 Debates between Baroness Finlay of Llandaff and Baroness Royall of Blaisdon

Mon 9th Nov 2026
Health Bill
Lords Chamber

Committee stage
Fri 23rd Jan 2026

Health Bill

Debate between Baroness Finlay of Llandaff and Baroness Royall of Blaisdon
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff Portrait Baroness Finlay of Llandaff (CB)
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My Lords, I have two amendments in this group, and I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Pidgeon, for having referred to one of them.

My Amendments 247 and 250 would address genomics and radiotherapy, because there are fundamental weaknesses in how diagnostic genomic services and radiotherapy treatment services are planned and improved across England. In both areas, rapid advances are altering survival and avoiding toxicity from poorly planned treatments. Current international comparisons by the OECD place the UK 31st out of 43 countries for five-year lung cancer survival and 26th for colon cancer survival. Overall cancer mortality data place the UK 26th out of 36 countries. Following on from the questions from the noble Baroness, Lady Pidgeon, I ask the Minister two specific questions. First, why is the UK no longer submitting information to the OECD on cancers? Secondly, will we be renegotiating for our cancer research to become part of the EU4Health programme again?

Diagnostic delays and inadequate radiotherapy services are largely responsible for our poorer outcomes. In cancer genomics, only 3% of pathologists are always meeting the 14-day national target for lung cancer genomic testing. Pathology personnel shortages are particularly severe in genomics and genetics, causing delays, which are compounded by high sample volume workload, administrative inefficiencies, delays in sample processing, and outsourcing, as well as inadequate equipment.

Recently, almost half of healthcare professionals had to start urgent treatment before biomarkers were available. Around 1,000 cancers are diagnosed a day, but delays compromise timely treatment decisions, patient safety, access to targeted therapies and eligibility for time-sensitive clinical trials, while precious time is wasted by fragmented reporting pathways, poor IT interoperability and outdated laboratory information management systems, or LIMS.

Yet genomics is one of the major strategic transformational priorities for the NHS to improve cancer outcomes. Innovation in genomics is advancing very rapidly, and AI advances in analysing and interpreting large-scale sequencing data need digital infrastructure. Although many local pathology laboratories can deliver results within clinically useful timeframes, whole-genome sequencing at genomic laboratory hubs becomes essential for complex cases and inherited cancer syndromes. In addition, it supports research and new biomarker assay development when integrated with tissue pathology and imaging.

The NHS workforce plan, which we have already discussed, must consider training and workforce development in genomics and genetics, cellular pathology, clinical biochemistry, and molecular pathology; otherwise, a bottleneck in cancer and precision medicine pathways will continue to compromise cancer diagnosis and will eventually leave us with even worse outcomes.

Radiotherapy is crucial for cancer treatment. It is the second most widely used cancer treatment. It is needed by half of cancer patients and is key to 40% of cancer cures, and there is also palliative radiotherapy. Yet radiotherapy has the worst waiting times of the main cancer treatments, with significant inequalities in access. The latest NHS figures show that wait times for radiotherapy are far worse than for surgery or cancer drug treatments. Only 42% of patients receive their first radiotherapy treatment within 62 days. In some ICBs, this is as low as 10%, so only one in 10 patients receives their treatment on time—far away from the target of 85%.

Delays to radiotherapy are worse in the east of England, the Midlands and the north-east. Delays jeopardise survival. For some cancers, every four-week delay in treatment, as we have heard, brings a 10% increase in the risk of death. That is very serious. Government data shows that access to radiotherapy among lung cancer patients was as low as 11% in some areas. As the noble Baroness, Lady Pidgeon, said, the UK has only five radiotherapy linear accelerators per million people, compared with more than seven in France, Italy, and the Netherlands. International estimates suggest that 53% of cancer patients could benefit from radiotherapy, yet in England only 35% received it as part of their primary treatment.

Improving this requires a new approach. I, like everyone, welcome the national cancer plan, but a previous error in it highlights the need for this amendment. The cancer plan claimed that 28 replacement radiotherapy machines would enable an additional 27,500 patients to be treated annually, but the now corrected figure is for 27,500 treatments, not patients. Patients can receive dozens of treatments, so this could be a tenfold overestimate in capacity increase. It shows why radiotherapy expertise must be involved in policy, particularly horizon scanning advanced technology.

Radiotherapy services do not map neatly within ICB boundaries and operate within in the wider operational delivery networks. Most ICBs have no named lead, having only one or two radiotherapy centres in their area. So the ICBs lack the necessary specialist knowledge. Secretary of State support to ICBs would improve access to modern techniques, including stereotactic radiotherapy and proton beam therapy. The financial case is compelling.

Radiotherapy is our most cost-effective curative cancer treatment. A curative course costs around £3,000 to £7,000, and palliative treatment is a few hundred pounds. It accounts for just 7% of cancer expenditure in England, despite being second to surgery for cure rates. Radiotherapy investment makes clinical and economic sense for the treatment of cancer patients. We must improve. I suggest that these amendments are practical, complementary to the Government’s cancer plan, and essential.

Baroness Royall of Blaisdon Portrait Baroness Royall of Blaisdon (Lab)
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My Lords, I fully support all the amendments in this group. Anecdotally, on radiotherapy, a friend of mine was a very senior consultant in radiography, and he was so frustrated by the system that he retired earlier than he might. He just gave up the battle; it was so very hard. Obviously, that was to the detriment of his patients, but he could not continue any longer.

I have one question on Amendment 228, about the number of days that people should wait for treatment post diagnosis—62 days seems far too long to me, so I urge noble Lords to make it much sooner than that, because that would save lives.

Amendment 233 is in my name. I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Mott, and the right reverend Prelate the Bishop of Manchester for adding their names, and to Prostate Cancer UK for its support. It is a fantastic charity. Prostate cancer, as I have said so many times, is the most common cancer in men in this country. More than 64,000 men are diagnosed every year, and around 12,000 die. It remains the most common cancer without a national screening programme, but, like all cancers, early diagnosis is key.

Terminally Ill Adults (End of Life) Bill

Debate between Baroness Finlay of Llandaff and Baroness Royall of Blaisdon
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon Portrait Baroness Royall of Blaisdon (Lab)
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My Lords, I completely agree with the noble Lord, Lord Deben, on the society that we are seeking to have. We agree on so many things. We are on different Benches, but we agree on many things. However, the pre-eminent reason for this Bill is a terminal illness for six months. I understand what the noble Lord opposite is saying—that one cannot be sure—but we are talking about six months. As other noble Lords have said, one might aspire to have access to the drugs so that one could take one’s life if one had a terminal illness and it was thought that it was going to last for six months, but it does not mean to say that people are going to use them. It is important to remember that all the time. Six months and a terminal illness is the important thing to keep in the forefront of our minds at all times.

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff Portrait Baroness Finlay of Llandaff (CB)
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My Lords, the noble Baroness has prompted me to return to the point made by my noble friend Lady Cass, because the chance of being right about six months has been estimated at around 48%. It is just plucked out of the air. It depends on the individual, how their body responds to whatever disease it is and lots of other factors. I was concerned when the noble Lord, Lord Markham, said that these are people who want to live. They should be having access to specialist palliative care to maintain their quality of life as high as possible, yet we have huge gaps in this country.