Debates between Victoria Atkins and Fiona Mactaggart during the 2015-2017 Parliament

Mon 6th Jun 2016
Investigatory Powers Bill
Commons Chamber

Report: 1st sitting: House of Commons & Report: 1st sitting: House of Commons

Investigatory Powers Bill

Debate between Victoria Atkins and Fiona Mactaggart
Report: 1st sitting: House of Commons
Monday 6th June 2016

(8 years, 5 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Victoria Atkins Portrait Victoria Atkins
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I am extremely grateful for that intervention, which shows powerfully just how important this is. I am conscious of the time, so I will make just one more point about new clause 1. Subsection (1)(e) sets out that people are to be told if they have been informed on by covert human intelligence sources. That means informants, in everyday language. The new clause, if passed, would help criminal gangs to find out who is informing on them—and, presumably, to do great harm to those informants, because no criminal likes a grass.

I am conscious that new clause 16 mirrors much of new clause 1. It does not, in fairness, contain the reference to CHISs, but the fact is that it will have a similarly devastating effect on law enforcement and security service operations in this country.

Fiona Mactaggart Portrait Fiona Mactaggart (Slough) (Lab)
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Will the hon. Lady give way?

Victoria Atkins Portrait Victoria Atkins
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I am literally on my last page.

Fiona Mactaggart Portrait Fiona Mactaggart
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It seems to me that the reason for these amendments is the sense that there is not sufficient accountability in the secret services and other bodies. To that end, would the hon. Lady support new clause 2, proposed by the Intelligence and Security Committee, which would ensure that there could be proper investigation by a commissioner of anything that we felt required it?

Victoria Atkins Portrait Victoria Atkins
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I hesitate to do the job of my Front-Bench colleagues, and I know that the Solicitor General will respond to that point.

I will finish by saying that the amendments and new clauses on privacy proposed by the Government reflect the fact that the scrutiny of the Bill has worked thus far and has been a worthwhile exercise. I hope that new clauses 1 and 16 will not trouble this House, because the Bill as it stands is much stronger for the many months of scrutiny it has received.