All 4 Debates between Vicky Ford and Anna Soubry

Mon 16th Jul 2018
Taxation (Cross-border Trade) Bill
Commons Chamber

3rd reading: House of Commons & Report stage: House of Commons
Tue 9th Jan 2018

Taxation (Cross-border Trade) Bill

Debate between Vicky Ford and Anna Soubry
Anna Soubry Portrait Anna Soubry
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I have to say to my hon. Friend that that is absolute codswallop. When I went to Toyota, we were shown exactly the places where the parts had come from. For example, some parts had come from Japan. There was a special arrangement with Japan whereby the parts come into the factory and sit in a bonded warehouse. Those parts number less than 1% of the total. Toyota has 2.5 million parts coming into that factory, and the vast majority come from the European Union—it relies on frictionless trade.

With great respect to my hon. Friend, he is somebody who makes the case that we should be a member of the World Trade Organisation. Let us just get this one straight. If our country joins the World Trade Organisation—[Interruption.] Well, we are a member through our membership of the European Union. If we are a member of the WTO in our own right, we will have to abide by its rules, which say that every member must secure its borders—I repeat, must secure its borders. That does not just mean that our country, when we leave the European Union, must secure its borders, but that the European Union, whether it likes or not, must secure its borders. What does that mean? There will have to be a hard border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. It is dishonest and disingenuous for people to stand up and make out that something other than that is the reality.

The White Paper faces up to Brexit reality, and that is what Conservative Members must now do. We have to face that reality, just like I have had to face the reality that we are leaving the European Union. Hon. Members have to do the right thing by their constituents and put trade and business at the heart of Brexit.

Vicky Ford Portrait Vicky Ford (Chelmsford) (Con)
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I want to go back to the point about enforcing our border. Some people say that, if we were trading under WTO rules, we would not need to have a border in Ireland, but under the WTO’s most-favoured-nation rules, if we did not enforce the border in Ireland, we would be in breach of our agreements with other parts of the world. We would have no right to say, “No border.” Furthermore, if Ireland did not enforce the border with the rest of the UK, it would be in breach of its obligations to the EU, and if the EU did not require Ireland to respect the border, it would be in breach of its obligations across the world. So I thank my right hon. Friend for making that point so clearly.

Anna Soubry Portrait Anna Soubry
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That was a very long but very good intervention.

Government’s EU Exit Analysis

Debate between Vicky Ford and Anna Soubry
Wednesday 31st January 2018

(6 years, 9 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Keir Starmer Portrait Keir Starmer
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I will give way in one minute, but may I just finish this point?

Having been a civil servant for five years and having engaged in risk assessments, I can say that the purpose of the exercise is to identify the risk, the size of the risk, and the likelihood of the risk. The fourth column, which is always the really important one, is what the Government will do to mitigate the risk. That is why these risk assessments are so important.

Trade Bill

Debate between Vicky Ford and Anna Soubry
Tuesday 9th January 2018

(6 years, 10 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Anna Soubry Portrait Anna Soubry (Broxtowe) (Con)
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Will the hon. Gentleman give way on that point?

European Union (Withdrawal) Bill

Debate between Vicky Ford and Anna Soubry
Thursday 7th September 2017

(7 years, 2 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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