Oral Answers to Questions Debate

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Department: Ministry of Justice

Oral Answers to Questions

Tony Baldry Excerpts
Tuesday 16th December 2014

(9 years, 11 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Lord Grayling Portrait Chris Grayling
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It is so unprecedented as a typical Tory rip-off that it is a very similar approach to the one taken by the Labour party when it set up the flexible new deal. Sometimes its hypocrisy is breathtaking.

Tony Baldry Portrait Sir Tony Baldry (Banbury) (Con)
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For public accounting purposes, many of the charities and new social enterprises that are coming into being to help with managing ex-offenders will be considered to be private contractors. Will my right hon. Friend explain to the House how he will measure the performance of these charities and social enterprises so that we can demonstrate that it is possible to have payment by results and to get better support for ex-offenders?

Lord Grayling Portrait Chris Grayling
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The mechanism for monitoring the performance of all our providers in the private, voluntary and social sectors is very simple: are they successful in bringing down reoffending? This is not a payment by results programme as ambitious as the Work programme because we have to fulfil the orders of the court over which there is no discretion. But they still represent good value for the taxpayer as they ensure that we pay when we get results. That is the way that Government should operate.