Oral Answers to Questions Debate

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Department: Ministry of Justice

Oral Answers to Questions

Steve McCabe Excerpts
Tuesday 13th November 2012

(12 years, 1 month ago)

Commons Chamber
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Jeremy Wright Portrait Jeremy Wright
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Yes, I can. We are saying that there should be an element of punishment in every community order, unless there are exceptional circumstances, but that does not prevent a sentencer from passing whatever other measures in the order they believe appropriate for the purposes of rehabilitation. My hon. Friend is right to identify some of those, but there are of course many more. This is all about reducing reoffending. That is partly about punishment, but it is also about ensuring that someone does not go right back to the same cycle of offending.

Steve McCabe Portrait Steve McCabe (Birmingham, Selly Oak) (Lab)
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Work in the community is obviously a valuable element of punishment, but it is quite a crowded field, with various voluntary youth organisations and the unemployed also jostling for that work. What other specific types of punishment does the Minister have in mind? Will he give us a flavour of what will happen?

Jeremy Wright Portrait Jeremy Wright
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It is first worth pointing out that we have toughened up the work requirement, so we will now expect people sentenced to community payback to go and do it very soon afterwards. We expect them to do it for four days a week and we expect them to do it properly. If they do not, they will have breached the order and there will be consequences. The answer to the hon. Gentleman’s question is that there will be other elements to a community order which can properly be seen as punitive, whether it is a restriction on movement, an exclusion order from certain places or a financial penalty. There is a range of options available to the court, but we think—and I think his constituents would think—that each order should include a punitive element.

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Lord Grayling Portrait Chris Grayling
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I can assure my hon. Friend that we have made no changes to the plans. We always listen carefully to outside bodies, but no changes have been made and we are not considering making any.

Steve McCabe Portrait Steve McCabe (Birmingham, Selly Oak) (Lab)
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In view of the Qatada decision, has the Secretary of State considered requiring courts to take into account the likely cost to the public purse of their bail decisions, particularly in serious and high-risk cases?

Lord Grayling Portrait Chris Grayling
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I am happy to consider that matter further and write to the hon. Gentleman.