Charter for Budget Responsibility

Debate between Stephen Doughty and Ed Balls

Tuesday 13th January 2015 Commons Chamber

[Ed Balls]

I will explain the nature of the fiscal charter and how it works in a moment. I am sure that the hon. Gentleman will then see the stark difference between our position and the position of the Conservatives. He will probably find that he agrees much more with our position than with theirs.

[Stephen Doughty (Cardiff South and Penarth) (Lab/Co-op)]

The point that my right hon. Friend has made about low pay and tax revenues is crucial, but is it not also the case that since 2010 the Government have spent £25 billion more on social security than they originally planned to spend because of that failure on low pay and the failure to deal with the cost-of-living crisis?

[Ed Balls]

That is true. If we compare the welfare spending plans that the Chancellor set out in 2010 to the actual outturns, we see that he has overspent in this Parliament by £25 billion. He has spent £25 billion more on disability and housing benefits because of what has happened to the economy. The former Chancellor, the right hon. and learned Member for Rushcliffe (Mr Clarke), is right. We have to deal with the big issues rather than playing silly political games.

Office for Budget Responsibility (Manifesto Audits)

Debate between Stephen Doughty and Ed Balls

Wednesday 25th June 2014 Commons Chamber

[Ed Balls]

Either we find reasons not to proceed or we proceed. I spoke to Mr Chote last Friday. I will come to our conversation in a moment. It deals directly with that matter.

[Stephen Doughty (Cardiff South and Penarth) (Lab/Co-op)]

Given the cross-party approach and the interest, which my right hon. Friend has set out clearly, does he think that one of the reasons why the Chancellor and the Government have not agreed to the measure may be that they want to make misleading claims about the Opposition’s policies in the run-up to the election?

[Ed Balls]

Were the Chancellor to say that the proposals in our manifesto were uncosted and simultaneously try to block our manifesto from being independently audited by the OBR, that would look as if he had a political motive. But as I said, I am still hoping that cross-party consensus will break out in the course of my speech. My hon. Friend is being too pessimistic. Let us give it another 10 minutes.

Charter for Budget Responsibility

Debate between Stephen Doughty and Ed Balls

Wednesday 26th March 2014 Commons Chamber

[Ed Balls]

It started in 1986 under a Conservative Prime Minister and social security Secretary, it was called “restart” and it actively moved people from JSA— unemployment benefit—on to long-term sickness and invalidity benefits. It meant that very many people then spent many years out of work. It was a shameful policy.

[Stephen Doughty (Cardiff South and Penarth) (Lab/Co-op)]

rose—

[Ed Balls]

The hon. Member for Dover (Charlie Elphicke) has given up, so I will give way to my hon. Friend.

[Stephen Doughty]

I am glad that my right hon. Friend has mentioned the compulsory jobs guarantee, because is it not an absolute contrast with the manifest failures of the Work programme? Does he agree that the Government ought to be learning from, rather than smearing, the Welsh Labour Government and the success of the jobs growth Wales programme?

[Ed Balls]

All the evidence shows that action to get young people back to work, especially the long-term unemployed, pays real dividends. It is what we mean by tackling the root causes, and it is the right way to implement a tough welfare cap. That is the approach we will take.