EU Budget (Surcharge) Debate

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Department: HM Treasury
Monday 10th November 2014

(9 years, 10 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Ed Balls Portrait Ed Balls
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If this is such a good deal, why did the Chancellor not offer to make a statement? Why was he dragged to the House this afternoon? Talk about smoke and mirrors, Mr Speaker—I can barely see you through the Chancellor’s fog and bluster!

Is not the truth that the Chancellor failed to reduce our contribution by a single penny? All he is doing is simply counting the rebate that was due anyway—a rebate that was never in doubt—in an attempt to fool people into thinking that the bill has been halved. His so-called victory is nothing more than a con trick.

The Chancellor claims that the rebate was somehow in doubt, but that claim has been contradicted by everyone else. The EU Budget Commissioner was very clear when he said, on 27 October, in a statement on the backdated gross national income revisions,

“the UK will benefit from the UK rebate for the additional payments”.

On Friday, having been asked whether the rebate was in doubt, the Vice-President of the Commission replied, “No, absolutely not.”

On Friday, the Treasury was telling journalists that the Government had legal advice that the UK rebate somehow might not apply. If the legal advice exists, the Chancellor should publish it. Mr Barroso’s spokesperson, Mr Mark Gray, has directly contradicted the Treasury’s claims, saying:

“Commission position on this clear at European Council—rebate was never in doubt”.

The Conservative MEP Daniel Hannan agrees. He said—[Interruption.]

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Order. There is far too much noise in the Chamber. I wish to hear the views of Mr Daniel Hannan. Let us hear them.

Ed Balls Portrait Ed Balls
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I’ll tell you what Mr Hannan said. He said:

“it’s not credible to claim that it was ever in doubt”.

The Dutch Finance Minister said that of course this

“mechanism of the rebate will also apply”

on the new contribution:

“So it’s not as if the British have been given a discount today.”

The Austrian Finance Minister said that

“the amount cannot be put in question”,

and the Irish Finance Minister confirmed

“the UK will pay the whole amount.”

They are queuing up to contradict the Chancellor.

Let me ask the Chancellor this: can he name a single Finance Minister who is willing to go along with his desperate attempts to pull the wool over people’s eyes? And it is worse. The Financial Times reported:

“Officials involved in the closed-door negotiations between finance ministers said Mr Osborne did not complain about the overall bill.”

He didn’t even complain about the overall bill, Mr Speaker! I have here the minutes of Friday’s ECOFIN meeting: 21 pages, and not a single reference in those 21 pages to the UK rebate or the amount Britain owes being reduced.

Is it not now clear that the Chancellor totally failed to get a better deal for the taxpayer? He did not reduce Britain’s backdated bill by a single penny. The British people don’t like being taken for fools, and his attempts to fool them have totally unravelled.

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None Portrait Hon. Members
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Withdraw!

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Order. I am sure that the hon. Gentleman is not accusing any member of the Government of engaging in deception. If he is, he must withdraw that term.

Geoffrey Robinson Portrait Mr Robinson
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I am happy to withdraw it, Mr Speaker; it was meant in a light-hearted manner.

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John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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We are grateful.

George Osborne Portrait Mr Osborne
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I always knew that the hon. Gentleman asked questions that had been prepared by the shadow Chancellor, but I have never before seen those questions being handed over in the Chamber. Nor do I think his embellishment of the question added much to it. If the rebate was always going to apply, and to such an extent, why did neither he nor any other Labour Member raise the matter? Why was it not mentioned in the shadow Chancellor’s article in The Guardian? The shadow Chancellor says that the outcome was obvious, but the estimate of a £114,000 fine was based on a number of—

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Tony Baldry Portrait Sir Tony Baldry (Banbury) (Con)
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Was my right hon. Friend surprised to see the shadow Chancellor in his place here today? My reading of the Daily Mirror was that the shadow Chancellor was going to make a speech in support of the Leader of the Opposition—I apologise to the House; I misread that. The shadow Chancellor is going to be making a speech in support of the Leader of the Opposition in the next fortnight.

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Order. We are grateful, but the question suffered from the disadvantage of being irrelevant to the matter under discussion, so we will move on to someone who has a relevant question to ask.

Philip Hollobone Portrait Mr Philip Hollobone (Kettering) (Con)
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Confirmation that the rebate will be applied is clearly to be welcomed, but the blunt truth is that this country faces a bill £850 million larger than it faced two weeks previously. Given that we now pay more than £10 billion a year as our membership fee for this organisation, my constituents in Kettering feel that the bill is too large. Will the Chancellor confirm that a majority Conservative Government will renegotiate the membership fee after the next election?