Daylight Saving Bill Debate

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John Bercow

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Daylight Saving Bill

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Friday 20th January 2012

(12 years, 6 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Christopher Chope Portrait Mr Christopher Chope (Christchurch) (Con)
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I beg to move amendment 59, page 1, line 3, leave out

‘the time for general purposes’

and insert

‘the period of summer time (within the meaning of the Summer Time Act 1972)’.

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:

Amendment 58, page 1, line 6, after ‘Ireland’, insert

‘specifically including the interests and concerns of the principal faith communities within the UK.’.

Amendment 3, page 1, line 9, leave out clause 2.

Amendment 63, in clause 2, page 1, line 11, after ‘group’, insert ‘of independent academic experts’.

Amendment 22, page 1, line 12, at end insert—

‘(1A) Membership of the Group must be ratified by a resolution of both Houses of Parliament.’.

Amendment 64, page 2, line 1, leave out subsection (4).

Amendment 65, page 2, line 3, leave out subsection (5).

Amendment 12, page 2, line 6, at end insert—

‘(6) Such terms of reference must include an investigation into the impact on energy consumption of advancing time by one hour.’.

Amendment 23, page 2, line 6, at end insert—

‘(b) Membership of the Independent Oversight Group must include at least one representative from each of the four nations of the United Kingdom.’.

Amendment 95, in clause 14, page 6, line 2, leave out ‘Daylight Saving’ and insert ‘European Time’.

Amendment 5, in clause 3, page 2, line 10, leave out subsection (2).

Amendment 25, page 2, line 14, leave out ‘18’ and insert ‘24’.

Amendment 60, in clause 4, page 2, line 19, leave out ‘the time for general purposes’ and insert

‘the period of summer time (within the meaning of the Summertime Act 1972)’.

Amendment 67, page 2, line 21, leave out ‘daylight saving’ and insert ‘summertime extension’.

Amendment 68, page 2, line 23, leave out ‘daylight saving’ and insert ‘summertime extension’.

Amendment 69, page 2, line 28, leave out ‘daylight saving’ and insert ‘summertime extension’.

Amendment 81, page 2, line 32, leave out ‘daylight saving’ and insert ‘summertime extension’.

Amendment 83, page 2, line 36, leave out ‘daylight saving’ and insert ‘summertime extension’.

Amendment 84, page 2, line 40, leave out ‘daylight saving’ and insert ‘summertime extension’.

Amendment 89, in clause 5, page 3, line 10, leave out ‘daylight saving’ and insert ‘summertime extension’.

Amendment 90, in clause 6, page 3, line 12, leave out ‘daylight saving’ and insert ‘summertime extension’.

Amendment 91, page 3, line 19, leave out ‘daylight saving’ and insert ‘summertime extension’.

Amendment 71, in clause 8, page 3, line 34, leave out ‘daylight saving’ and insert ‘summertime extension’.

Amendment 72, in clause 9, page 4, line 4, leave out ‘time’ and insert ‘summertime’.

Amendment 76, in clause 11, page 4, line 25, leave out ‘daylight saving’ and insert ‘summertime extension’.

Amendment 61, in clause 12, page 4, line 35, leave out subsection (1).

Amendment 79, page 5, line 37, leave out subsection (8).

Amendment 93, in clause 14, page 6, line 2, leave out ‘daylight saving’ and insert ‘summertime extension’.

Christopher Chope Portrait Mr Chope
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I wish to introduce a discussion on amendment 59 and the other 27 amendments, from Members on all sides of the House, that you have included in this group, Mr Speaker. Before I outline the reasoning behind amendment 59, I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Castle Point (Rebecca Harris) on having steered her first private Member’s Bill so far. [Hon. Members: “Hear, hear!”] As you know, Mr Speaker, I have been in this House for some 23 years and have never got a private Member’s Bill as far as my hon. Friend has, so she is to be congratulated. I did not oppose the Bill on Second Reading, because I hoped that I would be able to change it through amendment, should the opportunity arise. That is the background to where we are today.

Amendment 59 is born of two deep-seated political convictions that I hold. First, I believe passionately in the Union of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. That means that I support a single currency for the Union, the pound sterling, and a single time zone. I am a Conservative, as well. In other words, I do not support change unless there is an overwhelming case for making it.

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Christopher Chope Portrait Mr Chope
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I hope that we will have many similar witty interventions from my hon. Friend during the day.

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Order. Preferably relating to amendment 59.

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Tobias Ellwood Portrait Mr Tobias Ellwood (Bournemouth East) (Con)
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On a point of order, Mr Speaker. May I say how much we are enjoying the oration from my hon. Friend and constituency neighbour? It does seem, however, to be taking on the feeling of a Second Reading—

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Order. The hon. Gentleman should resume his seat. I say to him for the avoidance of doubt that were the debate taking that shape, I would intervene to prevent it, but it has not yet done so. I am grateful to him for his solicitous concern for the debate but he can happily leave it with me.

Christopher Chope Portrait Mr Chope
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Thank you, Mr Speaker.

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John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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The answer is that passing reference by the hon. Member for Christchurch to his view on the merits or demerits of the Bill is in order, but dilation on that matter is not. For that reason, I think that the hon. Member for Christchurch would be well advised to take a gentle hint and focus on amendment 59, which gives a man of his experience, ingenuity and indefatigability considerable scope in any case.

Christopher Chope Portrait Mr Chope
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I am grateful to you, Mr Speaker, and to my hon. Friend for his point of order. For the sake of clarification, I was suggesting that the part of the Bill calling for the collection of evidence is not necessary, but we can develop those arguments in due course if there are amendments pertinent to it.

The most important thing is that I should make some progress. I have not made much, owing to the number of interventions and the amount of interest in this group of amendments. There is opposition to such a change in Scotland; I can see that there is some support as well. In the past year, the Government have basically done nothing in relation to the Bill since Second Reading. They have not considered the evidence. If they had, we might not need to allow up to 18 months for the proposed inquiry. At the moment, the Government suggest that it could take 18 months rather than one year. My amendment would reduce the scope of that inquiry, thereby reducing the costs and enabling progress to be made more quickly. Those who want progress will see merit in amendment 59, because it would focus the scope of any inquiry.

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Christopher Chope Portrait Mr Chope
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Again, it is dangerous to generalise. I do not know about you, Mr Speaker, but some Members of the House go jogging at 7.30 in the morning. It would be wrong to suggest that they should be excluded from our discussions. At the moment, at 7.30 in the morning, daylight is just about breaking in London, but if the Bill were passed and the clocks were changed, they would be jogging in darkness.

John Bercow Portrait Mr Speaker
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Order. Just before the hon. Gentleman gives way, and pursuant to the intervention that he has just taken, I know that in focusing on amendment 59 and the amendments with which it is grouped, he will want to turn his remarks to the preparation of the report on the costs and benefits of the time zone.

Christopher Chope Portrait Mr Chope
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I agree absolutely, Mr Speaker.