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House of Lords Reform Bill

Debate between Sadiq Khan and Geoffrey Clifton-Brown
Monday 9th July 2012

(12 years, 4 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Sadiq Khan Portrait Sadiq Khan
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The hon. Gentleman is right that the reforms, if carried through, will replace the House of Lords as we know it now. However, I will come to the semantics of the words “abolish” or “replace” in a moment.

It is fair to say that Labour would have liked to go much further. On occasion we tried to achieve much more, but we were held back. Our decision to proceed only with cross-party consensus acted as a restraint on the pace of reform. Proposals floated by Labour ran into fierce opposition. Despite healthy general election majorities, Labour did not seek to impose our wholesale reforms on a divided House of Commons. It is ironic that this has left us open to criticism by the Deputy Prime Minister—and, I hear, the Chancellor—for not doing enough during our years in government.

The House of Lords Reform Bill was first published on 27 June. A draft Bill was published in May last year, which was largely castigated in this Chamber and the other place. Before the Bill’s publication, the Deputy Prime Minister set great store by the findings of the Joint Committee established to look into the draft Bill. Let me take this opportunity to thank all the members of the Joint Committee, who spent nine months on the report. The Joint Committee published its report on 23 April, with an alternative report published by 12 of its members.

Geoffrey Clifton-Brown Portrait Geoffrey Clifton-Brown (The Cotswolds) (Con)
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The right hon. Gentleman’s manifesto at the last election stated:

“To begin the task of building a new politics, we will let the British people decide on whether to make Parliament more democratic and accountable”

in a referendum. Is that still his party’s view?

Sadiq Khan Portrait Sadiq Khan
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It very much is. Unlike the hon. Gentleman’s coalition partners, we keep our promises.