Unpaid Trial Work Periods (Prohibition) Bill

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster Excerpts

2nd reading: House of Commons
Friday 16th March 2018 Commons Chamber

[Andrew Griffiths]

On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. May I clarify something? The hon. Member for Glasgow South (Stewart Malcolm McDonald) mentioned an advert for an unpaid internship. I can confirm that that position was never filled; it was advertised, but never filled. I am, however, reminded that a paid researcher worked for me for, I think, a brief 20 days of internship with travel expenses paid before she took on the role as a full-paid researcher. It was so brief that it had slipped my mind, but I apologise if I misled the House in any way.

[Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)]

The hon. Gentleman has done exactly the right thing by clarifying that as quickly as possible and putting the record straight.

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[David Warburton]

Certainly not; I am going as fast as I can.

The activities carried out during such a trial assessment would not constitute work. If they did, the trial would need to be paid, and at least at the national minimum wage. As the House will know, that applies from the worker’s first day at work, regardless of whether the employer labels that as a trial. A trial is already not legitimate if an employer has no intention of offering a job and is simply seeking a bit of free labour. Therefore, this is already covered in legislation.

I am worried that the Bill would lead to additional confusion for the voluntary sector and impose yet more regulatory burdens on employers. There is the risk that businesses would think twice about employing more people and expanding. It would also reduce genuine opportunities for people like me to find work. As vice-chair of the all-party group for small and micro businesses, I must add that the Federation of Small Businesses does not support the proposed change, for many of the reasons I have outlined.

The House will note that the Bill has considerable overlap with the Unpaid Work Experience (Prohibition) Bill, which originated in another place and completed its Committee stage on 13 March. That Bill quite rightly seeks to prohibit all unpaid work experience of longer than four weeks.

In conclusion, although I understand the hon. Gentleman’s motivation in introducing the Bill, and I commend him for that, I take the view, as someone who has taken part in many work trials and assessments, that not only is the current legislation sufficient, but hardening the law by creating a blanket ban would not be a productive way for us to proceed.

[Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)]

I call Michelle Donelan.

[Michelle Donelan]

Madam Deputy Speaker, I think that I have already made my views clear in my interventions.

[Madam Deputy Speaker (Dame Rosie Winterton)]

I call Chris Stephens.

[Chris Stephens]

I, too, have made my views clear, Madam Deputy Speaker.