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Speech in Public Bill Committees - Thu 25 Jun 2020
Counter-Terrorism and Sentencing Bill (Second sitting)

"Q Thank you, Mr McCabe. It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship.

Mr Dawson, in evidence this morning, the Independent Reviewer of Terrorism Legislation said that many terrorist offenders often come from a stable family background. Does that not undermine the typical view that we have of …..."

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Speech in Public Bill Committees - Thu 25 Jun 2020
Counter-Terrorism and Sentencing Bill (Second sitting)

"Q But that is exactly the point that he was making, was it not? The argument normally is that when you are released from prison, what will help you not to reoffend is having the stable family, the job and the home, but that is not the case in …..."
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Speech in Public Bill Committees - Thu 25 Jun 2020
Counter-Terrorism and Sentencing Bill (Second sitting)

"Q We have heard about your career in the Prison Service as a governor and deputy governor. Were there any terrorist offenders in the prisons that you ran?

Peter Dawson: Yes, there were. I worked in local prisons and in a female prison. Local prisons of course do hold …..."

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Speech in Public Bill Committees - Thu 25 Jun 2020
Counter-Terrorism and Sentencing Bill (Second sitting)

"Q And from your interactions with those particular prisoners, is there anything in particular that you think we should be aware of on this Bill Committee?

Peter Dawson: I am not sure that I would seek to draw any conclusions. People often behave differently as prisoners. I do not …..."

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Speech in Public Bill Committees - Thu 25 Jun 2020
Counter-Terrorism and Sentencing Bill (Second sitting)

"Q Briefly, I want to pick up on your concern over polygraphs and what is written into the Bill, by looking at the explanatory notes that were issued. I refer to paragraph 213 of section 34, “Polygraph conditions for terrorist offenders: Northern Ireland”, which states:

“New subsection (5) establishes …..."

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Speech in Public Bill Committees - Thu 25 Jun 2020
Counter-Terrorism and Sentencing Bill (First sitting)

"Q Assistant Chief Constable, we have heard, and probably all accept, that young people can be immature and easily led, but would the police view also be that they can be extremely dangerous?

Tim Jacques: Absolutely. Sadly, we have seen—you have mentioned the case that is within my background …..."

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Speech in Public Bill Committees - Thu 25 Jun 2020
Counter-Terrorism and Sentencing Bill (First sitting)

"Q And consequently there is a need for legislation around sentencing that reflects that.

Tim Jacques: We would absolutely say that, yes...."

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Speech in Public Bill Committees - Thu 25 Jun 2020
Counter-Terrorism and Sentencing Bill (First sitting)

"Q Can you describe a little bit, from your policing perspective, the increased threat that you are seeing, from both under-18s and young adults aged 18 to either 21or 24?

Tim Jacques: We can see and we have seen not just the case that goes back a few years …..."

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Speech in Public Bill Committees - Thu 25 Jun 2020
Counter-Terrorism and Sentencing Bill (First sitting)

"Q So while it is very important that the police are able to engage with young people in a way that is constructive, it is also important that the police can keep all young people safe from the threat posed by other young people.

Tim Jacques: Yes, absolutely. As …..."

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Speech in Public Bill Committees - Thu 25 Jun 2020
Counter-Terrorism and Sentencing Bill (First sitting)

"Q It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Robertson.

Mr Hall, can I address the young adult age group? It has also been referred to by the Opposition. If we accept that there are different questions of maturity, do you also accept that the 18 to …..."

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