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Welfare Reform and Work Bill

Debate between Nigel Evans and Peter Heaton-Jones
Tuesday 27th October 2015

(8 years, 6 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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Peter Heaton-Jones Portrait Peter Heaton-Jones
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Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. They do not want to hear the truth, that is the problem.

Our welfare reforms over the last Parliament, every one of which was designed with the aim of supporting those who are able to work in getting closer to employment, were undoubtedly part of achieving the success story I have cited.

Nigel Evans Portrait Mr Nigel Evans (Ribble Valley) (Con)
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Is not the difficulty that the Labour party, in its last year in government, borrowed £150 billion, introduced a tax credit system that started at £4.5 billion and ended at £30 billion, maxed out not only the taxpayers’ credit cards but their children’s and grandchildren’s credit cards, and chained workers to a lower minimum wage instead of a much higher national living wage?

Peter Heaton-Jones Portrait Peter Heaton-Jones
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I agree with the powerful point that my hon. Friend makes. In fact, I am about to talk about the benefits cap that the Bill quite rightly introduces. The New Statesman, by any measure the house journal of the Labour party, states:

“Most voters regard a cap of £26,000 as unacceptably high and the move draws a sharp new dividing line with Labour. By pledging to use the money saved to fund apprenticeships, Cameron sends out the message that the Tories support work, not welfare.”