House of Lords Reform Bill

Debate between Nick Clegg and Mike Gapes

Monday 3rd September 2012 Commons Chamber

[The Deputy Prime Minister]

That was a fair description of the politics inside the Chamber, but my right hon. Friend’s last point is more important. If anyone really thinks that we can duck these issues for ever—that the House of Lords can carry on growing in size or that, in the 21st century, it is comprehensible to the British people that Members in the other place should be able to craft the laws of the land, getting £300 tax-free every day just for turning up—they should think again.

[Mike Gapes (Ilford South) (Lab/Co-op)]

The Deputy Prime Minister will know that the Boundary Commission for England is due to publish revised proposals in the middle of October. What is the point of that and how much will it cost?

[The Deputy Prime Minister]

I have answered that question several times.

Oral Answers to Questions

Debate between Nick Clegg and Mike Gapes

Tuesday 20th December 2011 Commons Chamber

[The Deputy Prime Minister]

The pupil premium, which by the end of this Parliament will be £2.5 billion of extra money to help schools that are educating children from the most challenging backgrounds, is a very powerful, progressive policy, and I am very proud that we have delivered it, as a coalition Government. We have been searching in vain for months to find out what the Labour party would actually cut in public expenditure. Now, we have the answer: Labour councillors want to cut the pupil premium that benefits some of the most deprived children in this country. That is progressive politics for you!

[Mike Gapes (Ilford South) (Lab/Co-op)]

T3. Eighteen months ago, the Deputy Prime Minister and the Foreign Secretary went together to Germany, and they were met by the right-wing Liberal Foreign Minister of Germany, Guido Westerwelle, who was quoted as saying that he was pleased to meet his “closest friends” and “fabulous partners”. The German Foreign Minister was in Britain this week. Did he meet the Deputy Prime Minister and the Foreign Secretary together here, and did they discuss whether they are still the closest friends and partners?

[The Deputy Prime Minister]

I did meet Guido Westerwelle, the German Foreign Minister, yesterday, as did the Foreign Secretary.

[Mike Gapes]

Separately or together?

[The Deputy Prime Minister]

The hon. Gentleman wants to know whether we met in the same room or not. Okay, we did not; we met separately. Hold the headlines, “Foreign Secretary and Deputy Prime Minister have separate meetings”. Honestly, he is really scraping the barrel. We all agreed, as I explained earlier to the over-excitable right hon. Member for Tooting (Sadiq Khan), that it was very important that Germany and Britain should work together on deepening and widening the single market, and on promoting competitiveness and growth, upon which the jobs of millions of people depend in this country and elsewhere in Europe.

House of Lords Reform (Draft Bill)

Debate between Nick Clegg and Mike Gapes

Tuesday 17th May 2011 Commons Chamber

[The Deputy Prime Minister]

Those powers of the European Parliament were ultimately changed because of a negotiation between it and national Governments. The conclusion we have reached, and which several other committees and cross-party commissions that have looked at this in the past have also reached, is that the way to avoid opening that Pandora’s box is simply by asserting that the balance of power will remain as it is and as reflected in the Parliament Acts. That is exactly what we are proposing.

[Mike Gapes (Ilford South) (Lab/Co-op)]

The Deputy Prime Minister has clearly had a difficult few weeks. May I give him some advice? I suggest that when he leaves the House today he speeds to the airport and gets a plane first to Sweden and then to New Zealand so that he can see how effective unicameral Parliaments work, and then he can come back with a different proposal.

[The Deputy Prime Minister]

I think the hon. Gentleman is suggesting that we should come forward with a proposal to abolish the other place altogether.

[Mike Gapes]

indicated assent.

[The Deputy Prime Minister]

That would probably meet an even more noisy reception than the balanced package that we have put forward today.

Political and Constitutional Reform

Debate between Nick Clegg and Mike Gapes

Monday 5th July 2010 Commons Chamber

[The Deputy Prime Minister]

The figures I cited were the figures that prevailed at the time of the last general election.

[Mike Gapes (Ilford South) (Lab/Co-op)]

The Deputy Prime Minister is a student of Germany. He will be aware of what happened in the early 1980s when Hans-Dietrich Genscher betrayed Helmut Schmidt, crossed the floor, and propped up a new Government without the election of Helmut Kohl. Is it his aspiration to be the Hans-Dietrich Genscher in British politics? [Interruption.]

[The Deputy Prime Minister]

Yes, exactly: “Nein” is the answer.