NHS Reorganisation

Nadhim Zahawi Excerpts
Wednesday 16th March 2011

(13 years, 9 months ago)

Commons Chamber
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John Healey Portrait John Healey
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I am going to make some progress. We are all conscious of your encouragement to do that, Madam Deputy Speaker.

Some say that the Prime Minister and the Health Secretary are failing to get the message across, but from the start they have told only half the story. The Tories did not tell people about their plans for reorganisation and market competition at the heart of the NHS before the election, and they did not tell the Lib Dems about them before they signed the coalition agreement pledging that there would be no NHS reorganisation. There is no mandate from the election or the coalition agreement for this fundamental reorganisation and far-reaching legislation. They will not be straight with people about their plans. This is not just about communication; it is about judgment. In the face of widespread warnings, they are forcing through at breakneck speed the biggest reorganisation in the NHS’s history.

Nadhim Zahawi Portrait Nadhim Zahawi (Stratford-on-Avon) (Con)
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The right hon. Gentleman wisely started by saying that there is room for reform. The right hon. Member for Edinburgh South West (Mr Darling) had plans in his Budget for a 20% cut in the NHS. Will the shadow Secretary tell us which bit of the NHS he would cut to deliver that 20%?

John Healey Portrait John Healey
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There is someone else who needs a copy of the Labour manifesto. He almost used his six minutes’ allocation to make that intervention.

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Lord Lansley Portrait Mr Lansley
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All GPs and their colleagues who were part of the first wave of pathfinders were invited to No. 10—there were far more than we ever expected—and Charles Alessi was one of them. It is a complete illustration. I do not know what Charles said or why he said it, but he is the doctor, not me. Frankly, I think that it is clinical leaders in the NHS who are responsible for what they say, not me.

Nadhim Zahawi Portrait Nadhim Zahawi
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Does my right hon. Friend agree that the way in which the Opposition are conducting themselves, when they proposed a 20% cut to the NHS, is scaremongering among our constituents and entirely irresponsible?

Lord Lansley Portrait Mr Lansley
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My hon. Friend makes an extremely good point, and he made it to the shadow Secretary of State, who did not answer it.

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Lord Lansley Portrait Mr Lansley
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I think I know why he has changed his mind.

Nadhim Zahawi Portrait Nadhim Zahawi
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Opportunism.

Lord Lansley Portrait Mr Lansley
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Yes, that is one possibility. Another is that Labour Members are paid for by the trade unions.

Our changes are driving real improvement. Our investment means that more than 1,300 patients are now getting the life-extending cancer drugs they need; that is investment in cancer drugs that the Labour party opposed.

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Stephen Dorrell Portrait Mr Dorrell
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I understand the point, and it is part of the argument that the Labour party has started to make about how, since Christmas, it has suddenly discovered that the Health and Social Care Bill and the policy that it implements—a policy based on commissioners having choices in the interests of taxpayers and patients—require commissioners to have those very choices if the policy is to be effective. As my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State said, the principle of competition for commissioners’ budgets, as funded by the taxpayer, was set out by the last Government in their policy of December 2007. Hon. Members should look at the text—it is there in the record.

The last Government were right. The right hon. Member for Wentworth and Dearne seeks to set up an Aunt Sally when he says that there is something wrong with European principles of competition law when applied to health care. Let us be clear: if we are spending £100 billion of taxpayers’ money on securing high-quality health care on the principle of equitable access, what is wrong with insisting on the principle that we should not allow monopolists to restrict the choices available for using that budget to deliver high-quality care for patients? That is the principle, and that is why I am in favour of competition law applying to the provision of health care in response to a tax-funded budget.

Nadhim Zahawi Portrait Nadhim Zahawi
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Does my right hon. Friend agree that this is political opportunism of the worst kind?

Stephen Dorrell Portrait Mr Dorrell
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It is, but it is not even political opportunism that applies to a popular principle. Surely opportunism is normally motivated by some popular principle, yet defending the interests of a monopolist does not seem to me to be a very popular principle.