Wednesday 11th December 2013

(10 years, 5 months ago)

Westminster Hall
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None Portrait Several hon. Members
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Mike Weir Portrait Mr Mike Weir (in the Chair)
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Order. Quiet in the Chamber. A lot of people want to speak in this debate, so I ask for quiet and for short interventions.

Jim Cunningham Portrait Mr Jim Cunningham (Coventry South) (Lab)
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Does not the evidence show that, even with the cull, the targets cannot be achieved? More importantly, would it not be better to use the Scottish system?

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Michael Fabricant Portrait Michael Fabricant (Lichfield) (Con)
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On a point of order, Mr Weir. The British Veterinary Association has just been referred to as a group of “pseudo-scientists”. I wonder whether the hon. Gentleman may like to withdraw that statement.

Mike Weir Portrait Mr Mike Weir (in the Chair)
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That is not a point of order. Interventions as points of order are not going to help matters. Many people want to speak in this debate, so I urge hon. Members to control themselves.

Chris Williamson Portrait Chris Williamson
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I actually said that some might say that they are—[Interruption.] I urge hon. Members to check Hansard, where they will find that I said that some might refer to it as pseudo-scientific evidence. Irrespective of the fact that some veterinary surgeons argue that the badger cull is justified, many other vets actually take a different and contrary view.

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None Portrait Several hon. Members
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Mike Weir Portrait Mr Mike Weir (in the Chair)
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Order. A very large number of Members are seeking to speak in the debate. I do not know whether we will manage to get everybody in, but in an attempt to do so, I am imposing a four-minute time limit from now on.

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Mike Weir Portrait Mr Mike Weir (in the Chair)
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Order. There are still a lot of Members trying to speak. I want to call the Front-Bench Members at five minutes to 4 to give them time for a reasonable summing up, so I am going to reduce the time limit from now on to three minutes to try and get everybody in.

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George Eustice Portrait George Eustice
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We are working on a DIVA test, but, as hon. Members pointed out, it will probably take eight to 10 years to get a licensed vaccine for cattle.

We are constantly refining cattle movement controls, which a number of Members have mentioned. In 2012, we introduced tough new controls on cattle movements and TB testing. In January this year, we significantly expanded the area of the country that is subject to annual testing and further tightened cattle movement controls, including the conditions that need to be met before TB breakdown herds can restock. Last month, we launched the risk-based trading scheme to encourage farmers to share details of the bovine-TB disease history of the cattle they sell, and to encourage buyers to act on that information. Less than two weeks ago, we went further.

Mike Weir Portrait Mr Mike Weir (in the Chair)
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Order. We have run out of time.