Debates between Louise Haigh and Simon Hoare during the 2024 Parliament

Rewiring the State

Debate between Louise Haigh and Simon Hoare
Wednesday 2nd September 2026

(3 weeks, 5 days ago)

Commons Chamber
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Louise Haigh Portrait Louise Haigh
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I am grateful to my right hon. Friend for the work that she has done on this issue—I know that she is extremely expert in this area. Work is ongoing, with mobilised action across Government and industry, asking Cabinet Ministers to work directly with regulators and supply chains and writing to UK businesses with clear steps to strengthen their cyber-defences. The National Cyber Security Centre has engaged with more than a thousand stakeholders in the wake of Mythos’s release to galvanise action and share best practice. She is absolutely right that over the summer, during a routine cyber-evaluation, the AI Security Institute identified an incident in which AI agents took sustained unsanctioned action that was directed at real people and organisations. It was detected within an hour. We have been completely transparent about the incident, and we have immediately learned lessons from it.

Simon Hoare Portrait Simon Hoare (North Dorset) (Con)
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I, too, welcome the First Secretary of State to her place—it is great to see her back on the Treasury Bench. I also welcome the creation of the Office of the Prime Minister and Cabinet. The right hon. Lady is absolutely right that in a centralised system it was the most underpowered organisation imaginable, and it needed some turbocharging.

I hope that the First Secretary will agree that rewiring has to be a process, not an event. The Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee will remember the great fanfare with which mission-led government was talked about a couple of years ago, before it died a rather slow, lamentable death. Can she assure us that she has both the personal energy and commitment to see this through to the end, as well as the support and resources around her in order to achieve it?

I echo the call from my hon. Friend the shadow Minister about the importance of looking at quangos and arm’s length bodies, particularly within the devolution and decision-making space, because too many of them have got out of control. I also echo the point about outsourcing, because outsourcing takes away a lot of agency from local communities and individuals, and that needs to be looked at with some urgency.

Louise Haigh Portrait Louise Haigh
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Mr Speaker, I am loving all the common ground that we are finding with Opposition Members today. I completely agree that we need to look at outsourcing across Government. The previous Administration already took significant steps to reduce spend on consultancy and began the work on the largest wave of insourcing in a generation, as promised in our manifesto. I have worked with the hon. Gentleman in the past, and he has witnessed my energy up close. He can be assured of my continued commitment to this agenda.