Imprisonment for Public Protection Debate

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Department: Ministry of Justice

Imprisonment for Public Protection

Lord Woodley Excerpts
Tuesday 16th January 2024

(10 months, 1 week ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Bellamy Portrait Lord Bellamy (Con)
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My Lords, that is, in effect, the present position. The Government have no interest in holding these prisoners, especially given the pressure on the prison system generally. The Government’s fear, worry and concern is public protection, for the reasons I have given.

Lord Woodley Portrait Lord Woodley (Lab)
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My Lords, the special rapporteur, Dr Alice Edwards, whom I had the pleasure and privilege of meeting last month with the Justice Unions Parliamentary Group, stated forcefully that:

“The UK, as a society with a strong rule of law tradition, has measures in place to protect the community after individuals are released”.


Why then does the Minister think that these measures will be ineffective in the case of IPP prisoners?

Lord Bellamy Portrait Lord Bellamy (Con)
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The Government replied in detail to the learned special rapporteur with a letter of over 13 pages on 23 December, to which I refer your Lordships. I look forward to further debate and discussion on this matter when we are dealing with the Victims and Prisoners Bill.