Debates between Lord Watts and Lord Coaker during the 2024 Parliament

Ministry of Defence: Expenditure

Debate between Lord Watts and Lord Coaker
Thursday 25th July 2024

(3 months, 2 weeks ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Coaker Portrait Lord Coaker (Lab)
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We are of course committed to the Storm Shadow programme. As the Prime Minister has made clear, under Article 51 of the UN charter Ukraine has a clear right of self-defence against Russia’s illegal attacks. That does not preclude striking military targets inside Russia, provided strikes comply with the law of armed conflict and international humanitarian law. As the Prime Minister said, it would be inappropriate to go into the operational detail of how Ukraine uses UK-provided systems. I should say to the noble Lord that that is exactly the same policy that the previous Government pursued.

Lord Watts Portrait Lord Watts (Lab)
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My Lords, is it not the case that we need a proper plan so that we do not end up having aircraft carriers without planes? Is it not about time that we plan for the future, rather than wait for it to happen?

Lord Coaker Portrait Lord Coaker (Lab)
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I thank my noble friend for his important question. Whether it is aircraft carriers and planes, the number of soldiers, technology or other capabilities, you have to have the capability you need to meet the threat that you face. My noble friend is right to point that out. That is the fundamental principle that underlies the review of the noble Lord, Lord Robertson, and why he will be working closely with others. I say to all noble Lords that it is an open review and anyone is welcome to contribute to it.