High-speed Rail Services: West Coast Main Line Debate

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Department: Department for Transport

High-speed Rail Services: West Coast Main Line

Lord Watts Excerpts
Wednesday 4th September 2024

(3 months, 2 weeks ago)

Lords Chamber
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Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill Portrait Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill (Lab)
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The noble Lord’s question in relation to Euston is germane in relation to the usefulness of HS2. The Government have been left with a position where many things have been promised and there is not enough funding for them all. However, we are reviewing the position on Euston urgently and intend to respond when we can to the proposition to extend HS2 from Old Oak Common to Euston.

Lord Watts Portrait Lord Watts (Lab)
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My Lords—

Lord Goddard of Stockport Portrait Lord Goddard of Stockport (LD)
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My Lords, it is this side. I have been waiting for a train for 20 minutes.

I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Liddle, for asking the first friendly Question on railways in the almost 10 years that I have been in this House. He hits the nail on the head. What matters is capacity; this was never about speed. Many times, you get on a train at Euston and the train manager says, “If we don’t leave in two minutes, we’ll be behind the slow train to Milton Keynes or Watford”, and, similarly, from Crewe. Will the Minister liaise with the elected mayors of Liverpool, Manchester and Birmingham and keep trying to work with them? They are the people who understand more about the need to move people around for business, pleasure, leisure and life opportunities.

Also, in the spirit of glasnost, can the Minister keep this House involved in future progress? As the noble Lord, Lord Moylan, just said, the money must come from somewhere. It has been found for the pay offer for the rail drivers. Perhaps it can now be found for the public who travel on those trains.

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Lord Watts Portrait Lord Watts (Lab)
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My Lords, this side!

Baroness Anderson of Stoke-on-Trent Portrait Baroness Anderson of Stoke-on-Trent (Lab)
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My apologies: I believe that this is a question for the Conservative Benches.