Rail: Great Western Passenger Franchise Debate

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Department: Department for Transport

Rail: Great Western Passenger Franchise

Lord Snape Excerpts
Tuesday 31st January 2012

(12 years, 10 months ago)

Lords Chamber
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Earl Attlee Portrait Earl Attlee
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My Lords, the bidders are able to take into account the condition of the rolling stock when they bid, with the exception of the IEP rolling stock, which they have to adopt. We need to avoid telling the bidders which rolling stock they have to use because otherwise that would compromise their negotiations with the ROSCOs.

Lord Snape Portrait Lord Snape
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My Lords, will the Minister consider something revolutionary so far as this and other franchises are concerned? The franchisee should set the fares, tackle overcrowding and run a proper financial risk for the length of the franchise; under the present system, the Government set the fares, the leasing companies own the trains and, if anything goes wrong, the so-called franchisee hands in the keys and the taxpayer picks up the Bill. Does he agree that, whatever system we have at the moment for running trains, franchising it certainly ain’t?

Earl Attlee Portrait Earl Attlee
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My Lords, I hope that the noble Lord contributes to the consultation, because he makes some valid points.