House of Lords Reform Bill [HL]

Lord Selsdon Excerpts

Friday 10th February 2012 Lords Chamber

Moved by

[Lord Selsdon]

312: In the Title, line 2, after “creation” insert “and continuation”

[Lord Selsdon]

Perhaps I may ask for clarification as regards the Long Title. One of the amendments I proposed earlier was that those of us who had been elected would be known as “elected hereditary Peers” rather than “excepted hereditary Peers”. I am in a slight muddle about the Long Title and I wonder whether I can have some clarification.

[Lord Steel of Aikwood]

My Lords, the short answer is no.

[Lord Selsdon]

I therefore feel slightly confused by the Long Title as regards where it says “hereditary peerage” and we still have the election process in place. If it is correct, I have no objection.

[Lord Shutt of Greetland]

Is the noble Lord moving an amendment?

[Lord Selsdon]

Yes, I was moving an amendment but I was asking for clarification. I apologise for that. Can anyone in the House give me some clarification?

[Lord Trefgarne]

My Lords, my noble friend raises an important point. I think that the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Steel, goes some way to give the clarification which he requires. If he is still confused—some of us may be—let us talk about it at Third Reading.

[Lord Selsdon]

It is the simple matter that if the Long Title is wrong, it is wrong. Is it wrong or is it right?

[Lord Trefgarne]

It is right now.

[Lord Selsdon]

It is right. That is all I need to know. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Amendment 312 withdrawn.