Debates between Lord Paddick and Lord Judd during the 2017-2019 Parliament

Wed 31st Oct 2018
Counter-Terrorism and Border Security Bill
Lords Chamber

Committee: 2nd sitting (Hansard): House of Lords

Counter-Terrorism and Border Security Bill

Debate between Lord Paddick and Lord Judd
Lord Judd Portrait Lord Judd (Lab)
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My Lords, like the previous amendment, Amendment 39 comes close to the overriding, overarching issue of how we protect our security without changing the nature of our society from the society we want to protect. It is a delicate path which we have to tread carefully. I know that the Minister takes this point seriously, but the last amendment and this one come close to that consideration.

We must always remember that in these situations it is not only the people immediately involved to whom action may convey messages but the wider community. We must bust a gut in difficult situations to ensure that we always demonstrate that we are a different kind of society in which the principles of law matter and we do not lightly undermine them.

Lord Paddick Portrait Lord Paddick
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My Lords, I support the amendments in this group. I have added my name to Amendments 39 and 41 but, for some inexplicable reason, not to Amendment 40. I assure the House that that is a mistake. All I will say is that I am sure that the Minister has listened carefully to the noble Lords, Lord Anderson of Ipswich and Lord Carlile of Berriew.