Debates between Lord Oates and Baroness Barran during the 2019-2024 Parliament

Mon 19th Oct 2020

Historic Statues

Debate between Lord Oates and Baroness Barran
Monday 19th October 2020

(4 years, 1 month ago)

Lords Chamber
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Baroness Barran Portrait Baroness Barran (Con)
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Obviously local authorities are primarily responsible in this area and will take the view of their community into consideration, but my understanding is that for the most contested examples there has been not a uniform community view, but a divided one.

Lord Oates Portrait Lord Oates (LD)
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My Lords, I declare my interest as an ambassador of the charitable education and arts project, The World Reimagined. Does the Minister agree that people would be more likely to accept existing statues if we showed greater recognition of the full history of our country? In 1682, William Godwyn proposed a statue in London to prominently acknowledge the injustice suffered by enslaved Africans. Does the Minister not agree that, 350 years on, it is well past time that a national memorial should be constructed in London to commemorate the millions of Africans enslaved under British rule?

Baroness Barran Portrait Baroness Barran (Con)
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The noble Lord is right when he talks about a full history of our country, and we hope our approach of retain and explain goes some way to addressing that, but he is also right that there is a place for new statues expressing many different issues, both permanent and temporary installations, such as the fourth plinth in Trafalgar Square.